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Old 11-10-2022, 08:51 PM
 
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Raise the starting salary to 75k or give a hefty COLA percentage raise to keep teachers.

A millennial teacher at my school told me that she could either do Doordash, Instacart or work fast food and almost make her first year teacher's salary here in CA since minimum wage is going up to $20 an hour. I was blown away.

 
Old 11-11-2022, 06:52 AM
 
Location: Sunnybrook Farm
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It's not the money, it's the working conditions.
 
Old 11-11-2022, 09:41 AM
 
Location: We_tside PNW (Columbia Gorge) / CO / SA TX / Thailand
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Money would help, but not assure teacher retention.

Most teachers have a passion and skillset to transfer knowledge.

As mentioned.... The working conditions, and attitude of parents and students may not align with the task of teachers to deliver an education.

It's a societal issue in the USA.

Money can't fix it.
 
Old 11-11-2022, 10:24 AM
 
Location: Sunnybrook Farm
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Note that the districts with the highest pay and the best pension and benefit packages are big city school districts with the worst working conditions and the worst educational outcomes.

Blaming it all on the teachers is getting old.
 
Old 11-11-2022, 10:30 AM
 
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Money would help, but not assure teacher retention.

Most teachers have a passion and skillset to transfer knowledge.

As mentioned.... The working conditions, and attitude of parents and students may not align with the task of teachers to deliver an education.

It's a societal issue in the USA.

Money can't fix it.
I agree with you.
 
Old 11-11-2022, 10:33 AM
 
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Note that the districts with the highest pay and the best pension and benefit packages are big city school districts with the worst working conditions and the worst educational outcomes.

Blaming it all on the teachers is getting old.
You are so right. Principals seem to be told that blame teachers when kids bring guns to school. At my school, a kid was expelled for bringing a BB gun. When my principal had a meeting with the teacher's student. He said that the teacher's classroom culture is the reason for the student bringing the BB gun to class. All I can say is wow!!!!!
 
Old 11-11-2022, 02:11 PM
 
Location: Suburbia
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You are so right. Principals seem to be told that blame teachers when kids bring guns to school. At my school, a kid was expelled for bringing a BB gun. When my principal had a meeting with the teacher's student. He said that the teacher's classroom culture is the reason for the student bringing the BB gun to class. All I can say is wow!!!!!
I’ve felt that way. The students’ were having difficulty with behavior because I hadn’t done enough to develop the right relationships. At least, that’s the message I’ve come away with over the past few years.

I have no complaints about pay. What’s expected as far as workload and the amount of time available to accomplish it, is an issue.
 
Old 11-11-2022, 02:19 PM
 
Location: Brackenwood
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Money would help, but not assure teacher retention.

Most teachers have a passion and skillset to transfer knowledge.

As mentioned.... The working conditions, and attitude of parents and students may not align with the task of teachers to deliver an education.

It's a societal issue in the USA.

Money can't fix it.
Not to mention being hamstrung by administrators.
 
Old 11-12-2022, 09:57 AM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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It's not only the money. School policies are against the teachers.
 
Old 11-12-2022, 09:50 PM
 
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I’ve felt that way. The students’ were having difficulty with behavior because I hadn’t done enough to develop the right relationships. At least, that’s the message I’ve come away with over the past few years.

I have no complaints about pay. What’s expected as far as workload and the amount of time available to accomplish it, is an issue.
How long do you have to work before you retire?
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