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Well, when I said "reality", I was referring to city people who often use it in that context.
Yes i know what you mean, Thanks again
I guess we all have different views on living in reality.
reality for some people is to live in a quiet suburb and commute to the city to go shopping, bar hopping, out to eat, go to work etc..
someone said today "all those suburbs are good for is hiding from reality"
Lol i guess the suburbs have large walls around them and no one can leave
Not sure if other people see it this way but to me, there's little difference between cookie-cutter-ness of suburban houses, malls, big-box stores and the cookie-cutter-ness of communist housing:
Not all suburbs look like that
Where i grew up the houses actually had a yard, plenty of room in the back front and side yards Woodbury, MN - Google Maps
Personally, I really enjoy most inner-ring suburbs and older streetcar-era suburbs, they have as much quality and character as most urban neighborhoods do. I also like many edge cities, which may be mostly made up of traditional suburban sprawl neighborhoods but also have very lively and dense urban cores that serve as the hub of the community.
The ones I do not care for are the completely car-centric sprawling burbs that are so common in America. If there's no "there" there, then I don't really want anything to do with it. That said, many people prefer that lifestyle and that's great, to each their own. I'm glad they have that option. Just not my cup of tea.
That horrible picture of the suburbs isn't even close to the suburbs I know and used to live in. Those houses and lot sizes would be more typical of a city - people crammed in. The suburbs (or exurbs) that I think of feature minimum of half acre lots, large, new houses and big garages and back yards. The suburbs I like are the ones that the urbanists are always complaining about.
Not sure if other people see it this way but to me, there's little difference between cookie-cutter-ness of suburban houses, malls, big-box stores and the cookie-cutter-ness of communist housing:
VS:
You know those generic Communists housing blocks ARE in cities, right?
Plus, most cities (well, at least in the Northeast and Midwest) have entire sections of their city consisting of only rowhouses, and rowhouses are usually to each other [cookie-cutter].
I hear people talk so much trash about the suburbs in there metro region for some reason. People in the Twin Cities diss our suburbs over the internet but in person if they meet someone from the suburbs there all friendly and nice.
Chicago seems to diss on there suburbs too. epically Schaumburg (which actually seems like a really awesome suburb)
But really all i hear is "Your cookie cutter homes are too boring" "Everyone in the suburbs are sheltered and boring"
I grew up in a Suburb and i loved the Homes with large yards and Large shopping centers. I moved to a city mostly because its more convenient for me. I do like the public transportation and how i can walk a couple blocks to University Ave where i can do all my shopping and get food.
It's basically two different lifestyles, some people choose the suburb lifestyle and enjoy it, they prefer to have more room live more spread out and not dense.
Here's what I find puzzling: People don't like the city (for whatever reason) and move to the suburbs. Fine. I get that. But the problem is when those people who don't want to live, or generally associate with the city, and the type of life that entails, continue to use the city in daily life.
Work, shopping, entertainment, etc.
My family moved from the city to a suburb/town "to get away from the city". But you know what happened? My dad still worked in the city. We still went to our church in the city. We still do a vast majority of our shopping in the city. If we wanted to eat at a restaurant that wasn't fast food, we went into the city. Concerts, movies, and sports were all reasons why we left our suburb/town to go into the city.
And when you factor in how most people get into the city, Interstates, the amount of congestion and delays by having everyone living outside, and heading in everyday, makes for terrible driving conditions for all involved.
My big problem is that I just consider them way overrated and not for me. Every single aspect that people argue with in favor of suburbs from bigger yards and houses and easier parking just makes me yawn. I am a city person to the core and that will never change.
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