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Old 10-21-2015, 10:44 AM
 
Location: Mid Atlantic USA
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Sevilla doesn't go against its country's stereotype. If anything, it's the stereotypical Spanish climate.

Funny you say this. When I went to Barcelona first, it didn't look like what I had imagined Spain would look like with all those sycamore trees around and the coolish cloudy couple days we had in Sept. But man Seville was exactly like I pictured Spain both architecturally, culturally (saw a Flamenco show there), and the hot sunny climate with shimmering swimming pools around the hotels and beautiful towering CIDP's.

I love that place!
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Old 10-21-2015, 11:31 AM
 
Location: Top of the South, NZ
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They can't even grow those in subtropical eastern US. Cold extremes probably kill them off. What low temp can they take?
The survive around here with yearly temps down to around -4C and -5/-6C in colder years. I just had a look at some gardening sights, and there is talk of plants dying at about -3C though. It looks like even northern Florida, isn't a long term climate for them.

The biggest one around here was cut down a few months ago, to make way for a driveway, but then the driveway ended up somewhere else. Common here in coastal areas, along with Cook, Hoop and Bunya pines
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Old 10-21-2015, 11:49 AM
 
Location: In transition
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Saltspring Island in Canada...
Completely goes against the Canadian stereotype. This video was taken in December

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-jos01G_Oo
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Old 10-21-2015, 12:25 PM
 
Location: Leeds, UK
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They can't even grow those in subtropical eastern US. Cold extremes probably kill them off. What low temp can they take?
I don't think they would grow away from the mild southern coasts and maybe the very centre of London. I've been told they die at -5C so there's no way they'd grow on Leeds.
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Old 10-21-2015, 12:36 PM
 
Location: Mid Atlantic USA
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The survive around here with yearly temps down to around -4C and -5/-6C in colder years. I just had a look at some gardening sights, and there is talk of plants dying at about -3C though. It looks like even northern Florida, isn't a long term climate for them.

The biggest one around here was cut down a few months ago, to make way for a driveway, but then the driveway ended up somewhere else. Common here in coastal areas, along with Cook, Hoop and Bunya pines
Yeah here I heard they were solid zone 9b (no lower than 25F). Northern FL is zone 9a with coastal areas being 9b. They probably grow on the coast of northern FL. I'm pretty sure they are on Tybee and Hilton Head Islands, but they wouldn't grow in the inland South.

I wonder why they can take -5C in your area, and only -3C here?
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Old 10-21-2015, 12:40 PM
 
Location: Mid Atlantic USA
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I don't think they would grow away from the mild southern coasts and maybe the very centre of London. I've been told they die at -5C so there's no way they'd grow on Leeds.

btw, I love those pics of CIDP in Leeds. I hope they grow to 50' tall someday. If I was in charge I would plant them all over the city. Why is it okay to plant trees in the UK they are not native but are deciduous, but planting palms is not? The more palms the better.
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Old 10-21-2015, 12:49 PM
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Location: Surrey/London
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btw, I love those pics of CIDP in Leeds. I hope they grow to 50' tall someday. If I was in charge I would plant them all over the city. Why is it okay to plant trees in the UK they are not native but are deciduous, but planting palms is not? The more palms the better.
There are probably thousands of CIDPs in London, but most of them are young so only 10-15' tall. For some reason people have only recently discovered that they grow well in our climate. There are a couple in people's gardens just a few mins from my house, and most garden centres will stock them. When I was on my way to the nature reserve where I took the pictures on Saturday, I also discovered a couple of 10-15' tall banana trees.
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Old 10-21-2015, 12:50 PM
 
Location: Leeds, UK
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They look odd in the snow.
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Old 10-21-2015, 12:54 PM
 
Location: Top of the South, NZ
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I wonder why they can take -5C in your area, and only -3C here?
Possibly greater hardiness from lower overall temperatures. While winter nights don't get that cold, windscreen frost can make an appearance during summer.
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Old 10-21-2015, 01:15 PM
 
Location: Murray River, Riverland, South Australia
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Speaking of palm trees, I finally live in a climate worthy of them.

When driving my houseboat to the pumpout station, I noticed a few stands of palms and some isolated examples growing randomly in the bush on the riverside. Lots of palms in this town When I get back I will take some pics and post them while drinking beer.
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