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Old 03-10-2024, 09:04 AM
 
Location: Windsor Ontario/Colchester Ontario
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Let wikipedia kill you with the -3°C isotherm, Erie, PA is humid-subtropical, there you go man!!!
So are Amherstburg and Windsor-Riverside. The deep subtropics of Canada.
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Old 03-17-2024, 09:06 PM
 
Location: St. Petersburg, Florida
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So are Amherstburg and Windsor-Riverside. The deep subtropics of Canada.
And Niagara-On-The-Lake, these are the Canadian subtropics Amherstburg is hardiness zone 7 already good for subtropical vegetation. Windmill palms, sabal palmetto, needle palms, Ilex opaca, Albizzia Julibrissin, Crape myrtles, and more. Maybe we should fill Amherstburg with that to declare it.
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Old 03-18-2024, 06:43 AM
 
Location: Centre Wellington, ON
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And Niagara-On-The-Lake, these are the Canadian subtropics Amherstburg is hardiness zone 7 already good for subtropical vegetation. Windmill palms, sabal palmetto, needle palms, Ilex opaca, Albizzia Julibrissin, Crape myrtles, and more. Maybe we should fill Amherstburg with that to declare it.
Canadian and American hardiness zones don't quite match up. Amherstburg, Windsor and Niagara on the Lake are all zone 6 using US zones.
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Old 03-18-2024, 07:00 AM
 
Location: Victoria, BC, Canada
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And Niagara-On-The-Lake, these are the Canadian subtropics Amherstburg is hardiness zone 7 already good for subtropical vegetation. Windmill palms, sabal palmetto, needle palms, Ilex opaca, Albizzia Julibrissin, Crape myrtles, and more. Maybe we should fill Amherstburg with that to declare it.
Not this again.

Have a look at the sorry fate of sabal palmettos in DC then let us know how you expect them to survive in Ontario.

https://dctropics.blogspot.com/2014/...ite-palms.html
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Old 03-18-2024, 08:49 AM
 
Location: Windsor Ontario/Colchester Ontario
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Canadian and American hardiness zones don't quite match up. Amherstburg, Windsor and Niagara on the Lake are all zone 6 using US zones.
Yes, we are 6b using US zones, and 7a using Canadian zones.
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Old 03-18-2024, 08:56 AM
 
Location: Windsor Ontario/Colchester Ontario
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And Niagara-On-The-Lake, these are the Canadian subtropics Amherstburg is hardiness zone 7 already good for subtropical vegetation. Windmill palms, sabal palmetto, needle palms, Ilex opaca, Albizzia Julibrissin, Crape myrtles, and more. Maybe we should fill Amherstburg with that to declare it.
Albizza (Mimosa Trees) grow all over this area, as do Ilex Opaca, and I’ve seen some smaller Crape Myrtles growing down at the Leamington waterfront. There are also a few Southern Magnolias growing here. The only palms growing here would be smaller Needle and Sabal Minor, definately not Sable Palmetto, and good luck trying to find any.
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Old 03-18-2024, 09:25 AM
 
Location: Augusta, Ga
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Not this again.

Have a look at the sorry fate of sabal palmettos in DC then let us know how you expect them to survive in Ontario.

https://dctropics.blogspot.com/2014/...ite-palms.html
Even in Georgia the palmetto line is probably around the Atlanta metro area to Athens, no way is palmetto growing without extensive protective measures in that part of Canada, pink silk tree and holly would fare better though.
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Old 03-24-2024, 07:13 PM
 
Location: St. Petersburg, Florida
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Albizza (Mimosa Trees) grow all over this area, as do Ilex Opaca, and I’ve seen some smaller Crape Myrtles growing down at the Leamington waterfront. There are also a few Southern Magnolias growing here. The only palms growing here would be smaller Needle and Sabal Minor, definately not Sable Palmetto, and good luck trying to find any.
Sabal minor it is. Windmill palms are hardy down to zone 7 these would struggle. Sabal palmetto(Cabbage palm) is hardy down to 7b or 8a. In DC cpuld be a limit area being 7b and downtown 8a. I think DC is actually 7b, and that them being on their very limit and not taken well care damaged them.
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Old 03-24-2024, 07:17 PM
 
Location: St. Petersburg, Florida
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Even in Georgia the palmetto line is probably around the Atlanta metro area to Athens, no way is palmetto growing without extensive protective measures in that part of Canada, pink silk tree and holly would fare better though.
Only Sabal minor, which is hardy down to zone 6! I am not referring to Sabal Palmetto like Cabbage Palm but Dwarf palmetto.
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Old 03-24-2024, 07:19 PM
 
Location: St. Petersburg, Florida
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Yes, we are 6b using US zones, and 7a using Canadian zones.
In US hardiness Amherstburg is 7a because annual mean minimum is above -17.8°C(0°F).
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