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Old 06-07-2015, 07:11 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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When I was looking at internships ten years ago, I never found any paid ones. Granted they were in different industries: PR and Radio.
My daughter had several full time internships while in college but in her fields, non-profit organizations and political activism, they were all without pay. I know your pain because she still had to pay rent, buy food, pay all of her other expenses and couldn't hold another job while she was interning so the burden fell to her parents to pay those things.

It really seemed unfair especially when I saw her cousin making big, big bucks every summer doing her engineering internships.
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Old 06-07-2015, 11:33 AM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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How did you come to that conclusion? What is average? You think the average starting salary for a fresh SCM grad is $70,000?

Entry Level Supply Chain Manager Salary (United States)

Median for entry-level SCM is $66k.
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Old 06-07-2015, 01:35 PM
 
Location: La Jolla, CA
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Some internships pay; some pay well. Maybe she's exaggerating, but she is probably getting paid.
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Old 06-07-2015, 04:03 PM
 
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My daughter had several full time internships while in college but in her fields, non-profit organizations and political activism, they were all without pay. I know your pain because she still had to pay rent, buy food, pay all of her other expenses and couldn't hold another job while she was interning so the burden fell to her parents to pay those things.
I asked this earlier: how is an unpaid internship legal? I think of an "internship" as employment, not volunteer service.
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Old 06-07-2015, 05:08 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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My daughter had several full time internships while in college but in her fields, non-profit organizations and political activism, they were all without pay. I know your pain because she still had to pay rent, buy food, pay all of her other expenses and couldn't hold another job while she was interning so the burden fell to her parents to pay those things.

It really seemed unfair especially when I saw her cousin making big, big bucks every summer doing her engineering internships.
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I asked this earlier: how is an unpaid internship legal? I think of an "internship" as employment, not volunteer service.
Frankly, I don't think that it is legal but it is commonly done in some fields. In fact, when my daughter did a full time three month unpaid internship at a large non-profit organization she actually took over half of the job responsibilities for a woman who was out on maternity leave. The other half of her time she designed and implemented a new program which the non-profit is still using several years later. I certainly don't see how they could possibly say that it was legal but they did it. The kicker was that my daughter was not even hired at the non-profit after she graduated, in spite of glowing recommendations from her supervisors.

She had another unpaid internship one summer and when fall came they hired a full time employee to continue doing the same work.

So in both cases she was taking the place of a paid employee and doing substantial work but was unpaid.

For college students in those fields it is a real hardship as you still have to pay rent, eat and pay all of your other expenses during the internship but you aren't being paid. And, if you do not have practical experiences through internships it is very hard to find employment after you graduate.

And, to add insult to injury, often the fields that only offer unpaid internships during college also have rather low starting wages for new graduates so it makes it even more difficult to pay back loans and get caught up on other bills.

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Old 06-07-2015, 05:12 PM
 
Location: East of Seattle since 1992, 615' Elevation, Zone 8b - originally from SF Bay Area
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I asked this earlier: how is an unpaid internship legal? I think of an "internship" as employment, not volunteer service.
The law is clear, but often abused. We expect our interns to actually produce work, so we pay them. For an unpaid internship, the IRS and USDOL require that it be an extension of their college courses, they are supposed to be learning, and not actually doing productive work. If they are doing actual work they have to be paid minimum wage or above, and have taxes withheld.
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Old 06-07-2015, 05:25 PM
 
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That is the median pay for an entry level supply chain MANAGER. This means that the individual already has years of experience working in some type of supply chain capacity and is starting their first year as a MANAGER.

People with fresh SCM degrees and minimal experience don't earn that much starting out. They usually start off as some type of supply chain, logistics, or procurement analyst/coordinator/specialist.
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Old 06-07-2015, 05:35 PM
 
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That is the median pay for an entry level supply chain MANAGER. This means that the individual already has years of experience working in some type of supply chain capacity and is starting their first year as a MANAGER.

People with fresh SCM degrees and minimal experience don't earn that much starting out. They usually start off as some type of supply chain, logistics, or procurement analyst/coordinator/specialist.

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Supply Chain Salaries 2,662 Salaries
Updated May 25, 2015
National Avg $71,613

and

Supply Chain Intern - Hourly (yes I know MSchemist doesn't like working for pepsi...)
PepsiCo (20 PepsiCo Salaries)
$23.03/hr

Salary: Supply Chain | Glassdoor
how about those? the intern money that it list is around what the OP listed, then bump it up for a full time person, not much of a stretch.

Why are you in such disbelief that someone gets offered that amount for a job?
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Old 06-07-2015, 07:33 PM
 
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Frankly, I don't think that it is legal but it is commonly done in some fields. In fact, when my daughter did a full time three month unpaid internship at a large non-profit organization she actually took over half of the job responsibilities for a woman who was out on maternity leave. The other half of her time she designed and implemented a new program which the non-profit is still using several years later. I certainly don't see how they could possibly say that it was legal but they did it. The kicker was that my daughter was not even hired at the non-profit after she graduated, in spite of glowing recommendations from her supervisors.
Seems grossly unprofessional to me. Probably just as well to not end up working there.
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Old 06-07-2015, 07:54 PM
 
Location: Atlanta
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My friends got accounting internships at PWC based on a 55k per year salary. Texas A&M has a very good accounting program which really set them up well for that.
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