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Yes -- this is fairly common also in the private sector. The poster upthread who has (three!) concurrent full-time jobs, if s/he signed a CoI agreement, may be risking a fraud complaint, to include felony fraud.
Not saying it would come to that, but it's skating on thin ice IMO.
FELONY??? Where in the world do you come up with that??? It's absolutely not a crime to hold multiple jobs and even if it was, it would definitely not be a FELONY.
FELONY??? Where in the world do you come up with that??? It's absolutely not a crime to hold multiple jobs and even if it was, it would definitely not be a FELONY.
I actually laughed out loud at this.
It's not about holding multiple jobs. It's about charging two or more companies for labor not provided because you were working for someone else at the same time. Let's say you work 8-4 for company A and 5-12 for company B. Not a crime. But change that to working 8-4 for both A and B and charging both for the same 8 hours -- different story. Put it in simple terms. Suppose you hire a plumber to work on your house. Instead he works on someone else's house and charges you for it. You wouldn't agree to that would you?
FELONY??? Where in the world do you come up with that??? It's absolutely not a crime to hold multiple jobs and even if it was, it would definitely not be a FELONY.
I actually laughed out loud at this.
Some of these people have been so brainwashed to mindlessly follow strict rules in their life, going back to grade school, that they believe that purposely bending the rules a bit to benefit oneself is abhorrent and must be illegal in some way.
It's not about holding multiple jobs. It's about charging two or more companies for labor not provided because you were working for someone else at the same time. Let's say you work 8-4 for company A and 5-12 for company B. Not a crime. But change that to working 8-4 for both A and B and charging both for the same 8 hours -- different story. Put it in simple terms. Suppose you hire a plumber to work on your house. Instead he works on someone else's house and charges you for it. You wouldn't agree to that would you?
I'm not questioning whether it's right or wrong, the poster above stated it is a FELONY to hold multiple jobs simultaneously, which is absolutely 100% false.
Also, your example of a plumber is not at all what holding two jobs is. If you have two jobs and get both jobs done well, there is no issue. A plumber cannot be in two places at the same time and would not charge someone for work that did not get done. Huge difference.
I held two jobs several years ago. Did well at both jobs and was actually promoted with both jobs. Both were normal 9-5 working hours. I am exceptionally good at my job and work diligently and don't waste time. I'd take one employee like me vs. the sloths who take 5X as long to do the same work I do any day of the week. I could care less about the "time" that person is supposed to be working as long as they get their job done and do it well.
It's not about holding multiple jobs. It's about charging two or more companies for labor not provided because you were working for someone else at the same time. Let's say you work 8-4 for company A and 5-12 for company B. Not a crime. But change that to working 8-4 for both A and B and charging both for the same 8 hours -- different story. Put it in simple terms. Suppose you hire a plumber to work on your house. Instead he works on someone else's house and charges you for it. You wouldn't agree to that would you?
Here is the difference. My employer is not paying me for 8 hours; or any hours, really. My employer is paying me for a scope of work with the expectation to meet the deadlines provided. Whether I am able to do that in one hour or thirty, that's on me.
Here is the difference. My employer is not paying me for 8 hours; or any hours, really. My employer is paying me for a scope of work with the expectation to meet the deadlines provided. Whether I am able to do that in one hour or thirty, that's on me.
I'm not questioning whether it's right or wrong, the poster above stated it is a FELONY to hold multiple jobs simultaneously, which is absolutely 100% false.
Also, your example of a plumber is not at all what holding two jobs is. If you have two jobs and get both jobs done well, there is no issue. A plumber cannot be in two places at the same time and would not charge someone for work that did not get done. Huge difference.
I held two jobs several years ago. Did well at both jobs and was actually promoted with both jobs. Both were normal 9-5 working hours. I am exceptionally good at my job and work diligently and don't waste time. I'd take one employee like me vs. the sloths who take 5X as long to do the same work I do any day of the week. I could care less about the "time" that person is supposed to be working as long as they get their job done and do it well.
Not what I stated. Please re-read. This is about the SAME billable hours being billed to two or three companies, NOT different billable hours.
I'm not questioning whether it's right or wrong, the poster above stated it is a FELONY to hold multiple jobs simultaneously, which is absolutely 100% false.
Also, your example of a plumber is not at all what holding two jobs is. If you have two jobs and get both jobs done well, there is no issue. A plumber cannot be in two places at the same time and would not charge someone for work that did not get done. Huge difference.
I held two jobs several years ago. Did well at both jobs and was actually promoted with both jobs. Both were normal 9-5 working hours. I am exceptionally good at my job and work diligently and don't waste time. I'd take one employee like me vs. the sloths who take 5X as long to do the same work I do any day of the week. I could care less about the "time" that person is supposed to be working as long as they get their job done and do it well.
This discussion is not about holding two jobs. It's about billing the same hours to two different companies. I already said if you're working different jobs at different times, that's ok. There is a difference between working two jobs and double billing.
Not what I stated. Please re-read. This is about the SAME billable hours being billed to two or three companies, NOT different billable hours.
Is it? You replied directly to this message:
I work for a local government. We have a conflict of interest policy where we have to disclose second jobs.
I don't see how that has anything to do with billable hours.
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