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Old 10-29-2023, 07:47 AM
 
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So I been in this company for almost a year and initially everything was working well. This is tech work so I work with different project managers, and my job is pretty much remote. However, I been assigned to one woman for a long-term PM that wants weekly updates and a list of accomplishments, and if we have nothing to offer in the meeting, we will be reported to senior management.

I can't work with someone that wants updates and threatens to report us for petty ****. I hate micromanaging and believe in freedom. As long as one gets their stuff done and it is good, who cares.
If I need help or if I got something important then I will bring it up cause I know what I am doing, and I get all my stuff done.

Anyway, I talked to a few of my friends working in other tech companies and no one runs their teams like this and they referred me to some roles in their companies and interviews have been setup.

The big problem was I signed a two year sign on bonus for $12,000. They already paid me the money but it said quitting before the two years means I got to return that money.

So my question is could I negotiate with the new employer so they can buy-out my bonus?

 
Old 10-29-2023, 07:58 AM
 
Location: Vermont
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You can try, but I doubt it. That's a big number. You might try paying back $6K and seeing if the new employer would get the other half. But again, I doubt it. Didn't you know what you were getting into?
Do another year and then move on if you are that unhappy there.
 
Old 10-29-2023, 08:52 AM
 
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What is the point in providing repetitive information? I don't mind giving updates if we can say "no status update" or "no change", but she is obsessed with knowing why nothing has changed. The other PMs didn't care and only cared if we are running into obstacles.

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Old 10-29-2023, 09:18 AM
 
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Sign on bonuses? What are those. LOL
 
Old 10-29-2023, 09:25 AM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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[Snip.]

What is the point in providing repetitive information? I don't mind giving updates if we can say "no status update" or "no change", but she is obsessed with knowing why nothing has changed. The other PMs didn't care and only cared if we are running into obstacles.
So, you're objecting to her doing her job as it relates to you? Asking for updates and wanting to know why no progress has been made on an issue is called "management". She also has a boss she has to report progress to.

It's real obvious that you're essentially clueless on what constitutes an update (Pro Tip: they're just not if "something's in the way") and what they're for.

If you get fired for refusing to do your job, one task of which is supplying timely updates on whatever you're working on (that's typically called insubordination) will you have to pay back your signing bonus?

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Old 10-29-2023, 09:34 AM
 
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So, you're objecting to her doing her job as it relates to you? Asking for updates and wanting to know why no progress has been made on an issue is called "management". She also has a boss she has to report progress to.

It's real obvious that you're essentially clueless on what constitutes an update (Pro Tip: they're just not if "something's in the way") and what they're for.

If you get fired for refusing to do your job, one task of which is supplying timely updates on whatever you're working on (that's typically called insubordination) will you have to pay back your signing bonus?
Management is to help if a problem arise, not to invent problems. Mod cut.

If I am terminated by them, I owe them nothing. Just cause she has manager to report to, it's not my problem. The hilarious part is she has no expertise in tech and needs our help more than we need her help. We gladly would help but threatening to report us for her **** poor management style is digging her own grave. The other PMs have a manager to report to and they didn't give run their projects in this slave manner like she is running it.

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Old 10-29-2023, 09:43 AM
 
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Management is to help if a problem arise, not to invent problems. [Snip.]

If I am terminated by them, I owe them nothing. Just cause she has manager to report to, it's not my problem. The hilarious part is she has no expertise in tech and needs our help more than we need her help. We gladly would help but threatening to report us for her **** poor management style is digging her own grave. The other PMs have a manager to report to and they didn't give run their projects in this slave manner like she is running it.
You sound like an employee everyone wants.
If doing your job is not something you want to do - leave. You are a worker bee not management. You get paid to work.
Pay your 12k k back and be done with it. Sign-on bonuses belong into savings until they are earned. You spent money that was not yours yet.
Why would a potential new employer deal with your financial situation?

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Old 10-29-2023, 09:45 AM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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Management is to help if a problem arise, not to invent problems. [Snip.]

If I am terminated by them, I owe them nothing. Just cause she has manager to report to, it's not my problem. The hilarious part is she has no expertise in tech and needs our help more than we need her help. We gladly would help but threatening to report us for her **** poor management style is digging her own grave. The other PMs have a manager to report to and they didn't give run their projects in this slave manner like she is running it.
You don't have a clue what management does.

Yes it is your problem if she has to justify your work output, or lack of it, to her boss. No, a manager's job isn't just to "help if a problem arise", she's also responsible for your work.

She only has a "**** poor management style" because she's making you do your job.

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Old 10-29-2023, 09:49 AM
 
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You sound like an employee everyone wants.
If doing your job is not something you want to do - leave. You are a worker bee not management. You get paid to work.
Pay your 12k k back and be done with it. Sign-on bonuses belong into savings until they are earned. You spent money that was not yours yet.
Why would a potential new employer deal with your financial situation?
I along with my co-workers that have the same opinion don't mind helping anyone including her. But what we won't tolerate is threatening us. That's where we draw the line. The best part is our actual client is satisfied with our work and never complained, but this she is creating a problem where none existed.
 
Old 10-29-2023, 09:55 AM
 
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You don't have a clue what management does.

Yes it is your problem if she has to justify your work output, or lack of it, to her boss. No, a manager's job isn't just to "help if a problem arise", she's also responsible for your work.

She only has a "**** poor management style" because she's making you do your job.
We already are doing our job and our actual client is satisfied with the work. The client had no complaints and even invited us out for a gathering(which she didn't even show) to watch Thursday Night Football for our efforts. What does that tell you? It means everything is going well.

Management is not there to invent a problem and it seems you are clueless on basic operations management. Her management style is gutter filth because she is upset that she had a team that is doing its job perfectly well and the actual client(the person that matters) is happy and has to invent a problem that never existed.
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