[BelleFontaineMan]

So looks immigration was the biggest factor for growth in Alabama. As expected, deaths exceeded births in the state by a fair margin

Article has a few visual representations
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/th...tes/ar-AAS3Oua

[RocketDawg]

Originally Posted by BelleFontaineMan

Very true, in terms of home production. Mobile, Huntsville, and Birmingham have had 5,386; 6,666; 5,418 building permits respectively so far in the 2030 census, which is not that far apart from each other

Where'd you find those numbers? Link?

[AnsleyPark]

Looks the country, as a whole, is slowing down...
https://www.snopes.com/ap/2021/12/22...mics-1st-year/

[Mississippi Alabama Line]

Originally Posted by BelleFontaineMan

Of course no single place is booming more than another, Alabama is one of the few states without 10+ million residents that has multiple places to move to. You have Huntsville, Mobile, and Birmingham that are all growing almost equally as well as several growing smaller metros like Montgomery, Auburn, Tuscaloosa, Dothan etc. Most states our caliber don't have (also Alabama is not Texas)

That’s lunacy dude. 4 places are significantly growing in AL: Huntsville, Baldwin and the major college towns.

[BelleFontaineMan]

Originally Posted by Mississippi Alabama Line

That’s lunacy dude. 4 places are significantly growing in AL: Huntsville, Baldwin and the major college towns.

You are unaware of the dynamics happening in the state

[BelleFontaineMan]

Originally Posted by RocketDawg

Where'd you find those numbers? Link?

https://socds.huduser.gov/permits/index.html?

and excel

[RocketDawg]

Originally Posted by BelleFontaineMan

https://socds.huduser.gov/permits/index.html?

and excel

I can't reproduce those numbers from the link. Are you doing metro areas instead of cities mentioned?

[BelleFontaineMan]

Originally Posted by RocketDawg

I can't reproduce those numbers from the link. Are you doing metro areas instead of cities mentioned?

Yes I'm doing metros lol, not the 3 cities

[steveklein]

Originally Posted by BelleFontaineMan

You are unaware of the dynamics happening in the state

You are the one that looks at a census estimate derived from data and then calls it garbage because you've seen a literal handful of buildings under construction in Mobile county.

From 2000 to 2007, Birmingham sunshine pumpers said things were turning around and we would finally see an increase in population at the 2010 census. I was skeptical noting that even though a few condos were built downtown, there were huge swaths of the city where nothing was happening. Then the recession hit and the population dropped percentage wise more than any decade in the city's history.

For the next decade, it was more of the same. An "explosion" of growth. The city had turned a corner and even though the population numbers might not make up everything that was lost in the previous decade, the bleeding had definitely stopped. "Just look around" they said. Of course they forgot that the city consists of more than just UAB, Park Side, and Avondale. The city bled over 10,000 more residents. People were shocked in the same way that liberal media personalities were shocked when Trump won, or that he almost won again. It's because of the selective consumption of material. When you only read bhamnow and comebacktown and totally ignore all the negative happenings in the city (of which there are more than a few), of course you are going to have a skewed sense of reality.

You are the one that is unaware of the happenings in the state, especially relative to the rest of the country and world. Alabama is growing, but not very quickly and it lags well behind the national average.

Keep calling every population estimate garbage for the next decade and then you can be shocked in 2030 when the state (or cities of your liking) did not grow nearly as much as you thought.

[BelleFontaineMan]

Originally Posted by steveklein

You are the one that looks at a census estimate derived from data and then calls it garbage because you've seen a literal handful of buildings under construction in Mobile county.

From 2000 to 2007, Birmingham sunshine pumpers said things were turning around and we would finally see an increase in population at the 2010 census. I was skeptical noting that even though a few condos were built downtown, there were huge swaths of the city where nothing was happening. Then the recession hit and the population dropped percentage wise more than any decade in the city's history.

For the next decade, it was more of the same. An "explosion" of growth. The city had turned a corner and even though the population numbers might not make up everything that was lost in the previous decade, the bleeding had definitely stopped. "Just look around" they said. Of course they forgot that the city consists of more than just UAB, Park Side, and Avondale. The city bled over 10,000 more residents. People were shocked in the same way that liberal media personalities were shocked when Trump won, or that he almost won again. It's because of the selective consumption of material. When you only read bhamnow and comebacktown and totally ignore all the negative happenings in the city (of which there are more than a few), of course you are going to have a skewed sense of reality.

You are the one that is unaware of the happenings in the state, especially relative to the rest of the country and world. Alabama is growing, but not very quickly and it lags well behind the national average.

Keep calling every population estimate garbage for the next decade and then you can be shocked in 2030 when the state (or cities of your liking) did not grow nearly as much as you thought.

No Sir, all I did was make a visual observation, maybe if you had read a little further down that post, you would have seen the statistics that backed up my assumptions in believing that the state might have been undercounted. I mean after all the Census had undercounted Alabama growth by nearly 50% in this past census. You can say what you wish but the statistics are against you mate.

Now I will note that going back and getting a better understanding of whats happening everywhere else in the states, I can accept 15k as possibly a growth rate.

and btw Alabama is growing well over the rate of the US, nearly 3 times the rate according to the census