[steveklein]

Originally Posted by BelleFontaineMan

and btw Alabama is growing well over the rate of the US, nearly 3 times the rate according to the census

Not sure what census you are looking at. Alabama grew by like 5% between 2010 and 2020 while the country as a whole grew by over 7%

[BelleFontaineMan]

Originally Posted by steveklein

Not sure what census you are looking at. Alabama grew by like 5% between 2010 and 2020 while the country as a whole grew by over 7%

The 2030 census, come on now

[RocketDawg]

Originally Posted by BelleFontaineMan

No Sir, all I did was make a visual observation, maybe if you had read a little further down that post, you would have seen the statistics that backed up my assumptions in believing that the state might have been undercounted. I mean after all the Census had undercounted Alabama growth by nearly 50% in this past census. You can say what you wish but the statistics are against you mate.

Now I will note that going back and getting a better understanding of whats happening everywhere else in the states, I can accept 15k as possibly a growth rate.

and btw Alabama is growing well over the rate of the US, nearly 3 times the rate according to the census

50%? Is that a typo?

[Mississippi Alabama Line]

Originally Posted by BelleFontaineMan

No Sir, all I did was make a visual observation, maybe if you had read a little further down that post, you would have seen the statistics that backed up my assumptions in believing that the state might have been undercounted. I mean after all the Census had undercounted Alabama growth by nearly 50% in this past census. You can say what you wish but the statistics are against you mate.

Now I will note that going back and getting a better understanding of whats happening everywhere else in the states, I can accept 15k as possibly a growth rate.

and btw Alabama is growing well over the rate of the US, nearly 3 times the rate according to the census

The census most definitely undercounts things, but it's not the urban areas. They generally always apply a national growth rate (or decline, in this case), to most rural areas. They just assume that they all are declining, because that's such an obvious trend throughout the country. So two things about this:

1) If you are looking at census numbers and claiming they are undercounting cities and metropolitan areas, you are wrong. They place huge emphasis on cities, because obviously that's where the majority of the growth is.
2) I know for a fact that one small town in Alabama was growing, but the census noted it as declining. We had to produce other sources of data because of what the census was indicating. So it happens.

They basically are going for the big data, and ignoring the small data. Probably not a bad strategy on the per capita level.

[BelleFontaineMan]

Originally Posted by RocketDawg

50%? Is that a typo?

No, the census (2020) discounted nearly half of Alabama's growth in the 2010s until the census, they had estimated a population of 4,922,000 people (142,000 added) when it was actually 5,024,000 (245,000 added). This means that 42% undercounted in estimates (not quite 50% but still pretty high)

[BelleFontaineMan]

Originally Posted by Mississippi Alabama Line

The census most definitely undercounts things, but it's not the urban areas. They generally always apply a national growth rate (or decline, in this case), to most rural areas. They just assume that they all are declining, because that's such an obvious trend throughout the country. So two things about this:

1) If you are looking at census numbers and claiming they are undercounting cities and metropolitan areas, you are wrong. They place huge emphasis on cities, because obviously that's where the majority of the growth is.
2) I know for a fact that one small town in Alabama was growing, but the census noted it as declining. We had to produce other sources of data because of what the census was indicating. So it happens.

They basically are going for the big data, and ignoring the small data. Probably not a bad strategy on the per capita level.

No, most of the undercounting went to urban counties, Lee, Tuscaloosa, Madison, Jefferson and Baldwin County

[Mississippi Alabama Line]

Originally Posted by BelleFontaineMan

No, the census literally discounted nearly half of Alabama's growth in the 2010s until the census, they had estimated a population of 4,922,000 people (142,000 added) when it was actually 5,024,000 (245,000 added). This means that 42% undercounted in estimates (not quite 50% but still pretty high)

You said they undercounted in this past census (RocketDawg quoted you), which is the 2020 census. Now you are saying that they undercounted in the census counts between 2010 and 2020? And earlier you said something about 2030?

You need to clarify what you're counting. I would agree that they are likely off in the counts taken between the actual census, taken every 10 years. But that's not what you said.

[BelleFontaineMan]

Originally Posted by Mississippi Alabama Line

You said they undercounted in this past census (RocketDawg quoted you), which is the 2020 census. Now you are saying that they undercounted in the census counts between 2010 and 2020? And earlier you said something about 2030?

You need to clarify what you're counting. I would agree that they are likely off in the counts taken between the actual census, taken every 10 years. But that's not what you said.

Moral of the story: they are undercounting Alabama lol

[RocketDawg]

Originally Posted by BelleFontaineMan

No, the census (2020) discounted nearly half of Alabama's growth in the 2010s until the census, they had estimated a population of 4,922,000 people (142,000 added) when it was actually 5,024,000 (245,000 added). This means that 42% undercounted in estimates (not quite 50% but still pretty high)

Gotcha. I misread what you said.

[navicosoft]

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