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Mullen Automotive, not in the original role poll directly, but now has Bollinger as a subsidiary has started production of their first vehicle. However, it's a Class 3 truck so not the sort of vehicle the poll was intended for. https://electrek.co/2023/08/10/mulle...pi-deliveries/
If this succeeds, then maybe keeps this maintains the possibility of Bollinger getting into production and surviving through to the end of this decade. Still very much a long shot it seems, but not completely nil.
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Lots of buzzwords, but sort of impressive they even made it to production. It's expensive as in a quarter million dollars and up. Makes you wonder who would take this over a Tesla Model X, Mercedes EQS SUV, BMW iX, Audi Q8 e-tron, or Rivian R1S given that these vehicles even when fully loaded cost substantially less than the base trim of the FF91.
A lot of hands-on reviews of the Fisker Ocean have been put out of late as deliveries have rolled out on both sides of the Atlantic. This is a seriously competitive vehicle for its segment which is a bit of a surprise as I thought it'd be on the much more expensive side than where it actually landed. Lots of odd features throughout the vehicle as well that are interesting ideas and maybe even actually good to use.
I've seen a few Rivian vehicles around "The Enclave" near where i live. That's some extremely wealthy people or companies who have bought up old farms and real estate and come form New York and New jersey on weekends and for retreats. They're big on Teslas, too. But I hear Rivian loses money on every vehicle they make and sell.
I was watching some videos of people fighting over recharging stations or outright using stations of private citizens. Entitled jerks must love electric vehicles.
I wouldn't buy a car from a company with no experience making cars.
For the Fisker Ocean, they're being made by Magna Steyr which has a lot of experience making cars.
At this point, it might safe to say that Rivian given that they're selling at a volume in the US that's larger than some of the smaller established brands as they've sold more than Mini and Jaguar in the US. They're scaling at a pretty quick clip for the last two years and seem to have tightened up their process.
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Deliveries were up 24% over the previous quarter and more than doubled that of Q3 last year. As a startup, it still posted net losses this quarter, but part of that is the cost of rapid expansion and they have a lot of cash on hand.
Other Rivian news is that Rivian's delivery vehicles are now no longer exclusive to Amazon: https://electrek.co/2023/11/07/rivia...mmercial-vans/ Rivian's thus far fulfilled about 10,000 of the 100,000 vehicle order, but according to Rivian, is already in talks with other commercial vehicle purchasers.
I think companies that are dependent of tradition means of engineering, manufacturing and distribution will be the first to go (I would include GM, Ford and Stellantis in that space as well.)
The previews have been very favorable, similar to how the Lucid Air sedan was critically well-received, and it's in a segment that sells a lot better. It's due for release late next year so it's going to be interesting to see if market conditions and interest rates have changed much by then.
Seems quite nice for a luxury SUV, though I still think it'd be nice if the Lucid Air came in a sports wagon variant. Also, someone please just make a solid electric minivan already.
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