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My brother works for a company that supplies most large aircraft manufacturers (Boeing, Airbus, Bombardier, Dassault, among others). We were talking about the 737-MAX the other day, and he told me that in his company at least, Boeing has a horrible reputation as being bloated and way too casual about how it does business and builds planes. Boeing's nickname among many of its suppliers is "The Lazy B Ranch."
Take it for what it's worth.
That's old news. Boeing had that nickname for many years. Internally though the company has changed quite a bit since then. Competition will do that.
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In the beginning of their crisis, Boeing should have never said or eluded to pilot error or incomplete airline's training of their pilots. Unfortunately Boeing did just that, twice.
Heard the Ryanair CEO say that out of a scheduled 58 deliveries by June 2020, they were now looking at 30 at best, and could even go to zero.
"Ryanair expected 58 of the planes for the summer of 2020, but may not have any of them ready, O’Leary said. “It may well move to 20, it could move to 10, and it could well move to zero if Boeing don’t get their s**t together pretty quickly with the regulator.” "
As an engineer with long experience with these kinds of system though not in airplanes I find the Boeing response incomprehensible. Our equivalent failure, killing or badly injuring a tech or client or setting a building on fire would have been met with an all hands drill including the best and brightest and even scientists out of the research lab. For strange stuff you would go to the University or consultants.
And that should have been the response to the first crash. Any engineer skilled in aircraft control systems would have said "Oh shi*t. This is a disaster!". And started the discussion as to whether the fleet had to be shut down or was there a safe pilot over ride of the system. I will not opine as to whether they had to shut the fleet down or not. But if not they needed an solid and doable pilot reaction protocol. And it needed to be promoted so that every pilot involved knew it to the point of being annoyed.
And by botching an obvious response they have turned the hounds of hell loose. The FAA will necessarily tighten the monitoring of the industry. That would be great if they were capable of doing so. But in fact the government simply cannot hire the capable experts. They expect $250,000 or more. And even the junior guys will make more an a senior FAA engineer. Perhaps an independent certifying agency capable of hiring suitable techs and paying them appropriately. Probably have to have a clause that makes a major screwup fatal or close to it.
Their core problem is not solely an engineering issue or a failure of standards and training. IMO it is the result of a lack of corporate ethics, one that has reared its ugly head too many times in the past fifty years. A place where top managers and executives pleaded guilty, resigned in disgrace, and huge fines are levied against the company, with no apparent improvements or changes. Yes it’s a major corporation — run by carnies.
Their core problem is not solely an engineering issue or a failure of standards and training. IMO it is the result of a lack of corporate ethics, one that has reared its ugly head too many times in the past fifty years. A place where top managers and executives pleaded guilty, resigned in disgrace, and huge fines are levied against the company, with no apparent improvements or changes. Yes it’s a major corporation — run by carnies.
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Strongly disagree. This is an operational problem with virtually certain outcome. Very doubtful even the unethical would willingly chose a suicidal course.
High corporate leaders may well be unethical or dishonest. I personally watched on go down at my long term employer years ago so I have no doubt it can happen but this is not one of those.
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