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I never understood why most boxers don't steal Mayweather's fighting style?
Seems less exhausting than being a swarmer, and you don't take a ton of punishment. Sure, you could fall behind on points, but I doubt you would get KO'd very often.
That's all fine and good. And it is a true talent to make your opponent miss while you counter and land. But, as a Boxing fan, I prefer to pay to see two guys in the ring leaving their all for the fans. I'll take a Marvin Hagler, Roberto Duran, Iran Barkley, Arturo Gatti (RIP), Felix Trinidad, GGG, Canelo Alvarez, any day over a Mayweather. As a result, I stopped paying for Mayweather fights some time ago.
That's all fine and good. And it is a true talent to make your opponent miss while you counter and land. But, as a Boxing fan, I prefer to pay to see two guys in the ring leaving their all for the fans. I'll take a Marvin Hagler, Roberto Duran, Iran Barkley, Arturo Gatti (RIP), Felix Trinidad, GGG, Canelo Alvarez, any day over a Mayweather. As a result, I stopped paying for Mayweather fights some time ago.
So do I, just don't get why a professional boxer would want to emulate that style when that boxer can take the much safer Floyd route and fight defensively. It's not like judges penalize boxers for lack of aggression anymore.
I never understood why most boxers don't steal Mayweather's fighting style?
It's not "Mayweather's" fighting style and the way he fights is nothing new. African American fighters throughout the history of boxing have often been described as "slick" and much of the boxing mainstream has historically hated them. Robert Duran's infamous "No Mas!" moment was a result of facing a guy who was apparently too "slick" for him.
It's not "Mayweather's" fighting style and the way he fights is nothing new. African American fighters throughout the history of boxing have often been described as "slick" and much of the boxing mainstream has historically hated them. Robert Duran's infamous "No Mas!" moment was a result of facing a guy who was apparently too "slick" for him.
First off, I highly doubt Hopkins statement that a Mexican fighter can't fight like Floyd. In fact, it's pretty laughable considering everything in boxing can be taught except for punching power.
So, it's probably Duran's style and Canelo's style that can't be taught if anything.
Last, the fitness needed to execute Duran's style of boxing is way greater than fitness needed to execute the "African-American style" as you call it.
First off, I highly doubt Hopkins statement that a Mexican fighter can't fight like Floyd. In fact, it's pretty laughable considering everything in boxing can be taught except for punching power.
Well, that's not what he said. He said "it's a statement about culture, not race." The point he was making was that Danny Garcia trains in Philly with a lot of guys who are able to mimic Mayweather's style. So Danny, in his opinion, wouldn't be as flustered by it (which I DO NOT agree with).
Boxing is a sport of styles, and it is true that fighters of different cultures tend to fight differently, though there are exceptions to the general trend. Willie Pep was Italian and is considered one of the "slickest" fighters in boxing history. Joe Frazier was obviously Black and stalked his prey from corner to corner while delivering devastating blows. Juan Manuel Marquez is Mexican but doesn't fight much like your stereotypical, come forward, Mexican pressure fighter. But generally speaking, boxing in the African American and Hispanic communities is approached differently.
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Last, the fitness needed to execute Duran's style of boxing is way greater than fitness needed to execute the "African-American style" as you call it.
Says the guy who doesn't seem to know anything about boxing.
And most of the people who are always whining about Mayweather "running" haven't watched his earlier fights. He fights more conservatively now because he's technically over the Hill. That's called smart. He stayed in the pocket a lot more when he was younger. He's definitely the best inside fighter in the sport with the exception of maybe Miguel Cotto.
Says the guy who doesn't seem to know anything about boxing.
Let me guess, you're one of those guys who thinks boxer-punchers are boring, and throwing 20 punches a round is acceptable?
All I said was in this day and age, when judges don't penalize fighters for lack of aggression, I'm amazed that kids grow up emulating guys like Duran and Pacquio. The style is so much more difficult to execute.
Most people could learn to fight defensively. As someone who has sparred before, throwing anything over 35 punches is devastatingly exhausting.
Let me guess, you're one of those guys who thinks boxer-punchers are boring, and throwing 20 punches a round is acceptable?
Let me guess, you're one of those guys who's not into boxing. It's okay. I'm not into MMA. But the difference is I don't go into that forum posting like I'm some BJJ expert.
I didn't say any style was better/worse or any more boring/entertaining than any other. I said that Mayweather's style is common among several African American fighters, he's just the best at that particular style.
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All I said was in this day and age, when judges don't penalize fighters for lack of aggression, I'm amazed that kids grow up emulating guys like Duran and Pacquio. The style is so much more difficult to execute.
All you said? You mean excluding your tangential rant in response to the Hopkins video I posted?
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Most people could learn to fight defensively. As someone who has sparred before, throwing anything over 35 punches is devastatingly exhausting.
"As someone who has sparred before." LOL. You say that like it's something special. As if any kid going to the Marian Anderson Rec center won't have sparred hundreds of rounds by the 11th grade.
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