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You can post these fanboy youtube clips all day long, but your boy is fighting Conor McGregor next, for which there are no words to describe how utterly pathetic that is, but not surprising coming from a guy whose last fight was against Berto, hahaha.
I'm sorry. You say Mayweather doesn't fights nobodies, but then these same nobodies leave Pacquiao unconscious on the canvass. And how is taking a fight against Andre Berto any less respectable than taking a fight against Chris Algieri?
I'm sorry. You say Mayweather doesn't fights nobodies, but then these same nobodies leave Pacquiao unconscious on the canvass. And how is taking a fight against Andre Berto any less respectable than taking a fight against Chris Algieri?
Pacquiao fought and defeated elite fighters IN THEIR PRIME...Barrera, Morales, Marquez, Cotto, Bradley. Marquez came up two weight classes to fight Floyd at a catch-weight that Floyd insisted on and then he didn't make weight. Refused to be weighed day of fight because he was the much bigger man in the ring. The Marquez that fought Floyd and Manny in prior fights was not the same Marquez who KOd Manny, anyone can see that. No 39 year old man suddenly develops acne on his chest and back and ten pounds of muscle mass in 7 months, not without some help.
Manny didn't close out his career against Algieri, Floyd is stooping to a new low and will close out his career against McGregor. Floyd is the one who pounds his arrogant chest insisting he only fights the best while taking on the Maidanas, Guerreros and Bertos of the world. Haymon owns all the talent at 147, so making a fight with Garcia, Thurman, Porter or Khan would have been easy, yet Floyd wanted no part of them.
Floyd is irrelevant. He was caught with an illegal IV just prior to the Pacquiao fight and couldn't close the show against a one-armed opponent, he never fought one first ballot hall of famer in their prime, and he is going to steal his 50th victory over some overrated UFC fighter. But again, I couldn't care less about who likes Floyd and for what reasons. Most casual fans are happy with mediocrity and hypocrisy, so I'm not surprised.
Pacquiao fought and defeated elite fighters IN THEIR PRIME...Barrera, Morales, Marquez, Cotto, Bradley. Marquez came up two weight classes to fight Floyd at a catch-weight that Floyd insisted on and then he didn't make weight. Refused to be weighed day of fight because he was the much bigger man in the ring. The Marquez that fought Floyd and Manny in prior fights was not the same Marquez who KOd Manny, anyone can see that. No 39 year old man suddenly develops acne on his chest and back and ten pounds of muscle mass in 7 months, not without some help.
Stop it. Manny's struggles with JMM lasted almost a decade, which is why they fought 4 times. The man is a sucker for feints, he reaches too much, and he's not defensively responsible, which is why JMM was able to consistently tee off on that big rock head of his. It could be argued that Pacquiao lost at least one of the three prior fights. The only difference between the 4th fight and the others was that JMM left us with no questions about who the better fighter was.
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so making a fight with Garcia, Thurman, Porter or Khan would have been easy, yet Floyd wanted no part of them.
Mayweather had already beaten your boy, so he could give the Big Payday to whomever he pleased. And "LOL" at Garcia and Khan. I support Philly fighters to the fullest, but c'mon. You're reaching here.
What I find interesting is how people say Floyd is so bad because his last fight was against Andre Berto, yet, they don’t say a thing about Manny facing Diaz, Rios, Clottey, Algieri, and Bradley 3 times. Come on, really?
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Stop it. Manny's struggles with JMM lasted almost a decade, which is why they fought 4 times. The man is a sucker for feints, he reaches too much, and he's not defensively responsible, which is why JMM was able to consistently tee off on that big rock head of his. It could be argued that Pacquiao lost at least one of the three prior fights. The only difference between the 4th fight and the others was that JMM left us with no questions about who the better fighter was.
For the Floyd fight PacFanboys say that the fight should be watched without any sound, in slow motion, etc. to analyze how Pac supposedly dominated Floyd. Funny how they don’t say the same for all 3 Marquez fights. JMM trained how to counter-punch Manny’s typical double jab charge followed by a straight left. There are many videos out there in YouTube showing how he practiced this over and over. That’s exactly how the fight ended. With JMM effective accurate straight right to counter Manny.
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Mayweather had already beaten your boy, so he could give the Big Payday to whomever he pleased. And "LOL" at Garcia and Khan. I support Philly fighters to the fullest, but c'mon. You're reaching here.
Before any fight you would hear Floyd would finally get beaten but after the fight came the excuses “He was too old…he was lucky…he paid the judges…if you play the fight backwards slowmo and watch it upside down you’ll see how Floyd lost…” and so on and on.
If Manny fought with Floyd's style I am sure people would praise him because "he's such a nice guy". But Floyd, not being as likeable, will simply not get any credit or praise from the fans. See what boxing historians, boxing analysts, other pro boxers, etc. say about Floyd and its quite the opposite. Just google "best boxers" or "best defensive boxers" and you'll see who's name appears on top of the lists .
If Manny fought with Floyd's style I am sure people would praise him because "he's such a nice guy". But Floyd, not being as likeable, will simply not get any credit or praise from the fans. See what boxing historians, boxing analysts, other pro boxers, etc. say about Floyd and its quite the opposite. Just google "best boxers" or "best defensive boxers" and you'll see who's name appears on top of the lists .
He would certainly be more liked no argument there. The thing is he would be Sugar Ray. Everyone believes Sugar Ray is a great boxer but pretty much no one looks up to him like they do Duran, because he wasn't the athlete Duran was.
Floyd has the misfortune of being the heel and having a style most people could emulate to some degree or another.
Stop it. Manny's struggles with JMM lasted almost a decade, which is why they fought 4 times. The man is a sucker for feints, he reaches too much, and he's not defensively responsible, which is why JMM was able to consistently tee off on that big rock head of his. It could be argued that Pacquiao lost at least one of the three prior fights. The only difference between the 4th fight and the others was that JMM left us with no questions about who the better fighter was.
Mayweather had already beaten your boy, so he could give the Big Payday to whomever he pleased. And "LOL" at Garcia and Khan. I support Philly fighters to the fullest, but c'mon. You're reaching here.
You obviously didn't want the entire fight because Manny had JMM beat before walking into a right hand. His nose was broken, he was winded and couldn't breath, he had about two rounds left in him tops, most people forget that. Manny finally had his number, and afterwards, when he asked JMM for a rematch while insisting on VADA testing, Marquez declined. Manny was also screwed in their first fight when Burt Clements admittedly scored the fight incorrectly which would have given Manny the win and not a draw.
No, that's not how it works. You don't get to pound your chest and claim you are the best ever and then close out the show against a Berto. But, it is typically of Floyd's low-risk/high reward recipe for success.
Again, Floyd never fought one first ballot hall of famer in their prime. When someone else goes 51-0 to beat his record (after he beats pathetic Conor McGregor for his 50th...yawn), his legacy goes up in smoke. Then he can go back to beating his girlfriends on the back of the head so no one sees the bruises.
He would certainly be more liked no argument there. The thing is he would be Sugar Ray. Everyone believes Sugar Ray is a great boxer but pretty much no one looks up to him like they do Duran, because he wasn't the athlete Duran was.
Floyd has the misfortune of being the heel and having a style most people could emulate to some degree or another.
Duran was actually considered the heel back then, but he was still loved by fans because he was a great fighter and he has balls of stone to go with those hands of stone.
Floyd would certainly be more liked if he wasn't such a heel, but make no mistake, his heel persona is the real him, not some WWE performance.
His nose was broken, he was winded and couldn't breath, he had about two rounds left in him tops, most people forget that
Manny lost with his face on the mat. That was the only way JMM could get a win vs Manny. “He could have…he would have…what if…but…” no, he lost. There will always be excuses for Manny’s losses. I am yet to hear a Pac fan simply say “He lost. The other guy was the better man” and move on. No, there are always all kinds of excuses just like Manny with his losses blaming them on a pair of socks, gloves, a shoulder, etc.
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Again, Floyd never fought one first ballot hall of famer in their prime. When someone else goes 51-0 to beat his record (after he beats pathetic Conor McGregor for his 50th...yawn)
Maybe he can fight Bradley, Diaz, Clottey, Rios, Algieri, etc. instead huh?
Fought nobody at his prime? Let’s see here: Hernandez, Manfredy, Corrales, Hernandez, Chavez, N’dou, Corley, Gatti, Mitchell, Juda, Baldomir, De La Hoya, Hatton, Marquez, Mosley, Cotto, Maidana, etc. And finally Manny.
Went for his first world title at just 18 fights pro and from there on fought guys who doubled him in experience, many unbeaten or with barely one or two losses in their record, and still won with ease.
At least we can agree with something. If Floyd at least pretended to be a nice guy like Manny does people would praise his style and cheer for him. People just don’t like him. Heck, I didn’t like Naseem Hamed but that didn’t bilnd me from seeing what a great defense he had as well as punching power. There are other boxers I don't like but I admit they have skills.
Manny lost with his face on the mat. That was the only way JMM could get a win vs Manny. “He could have…he would have…what if…but…” no, he lost. There will always be excuses for Manny’s losses. I am yet to hear a Pac fan simply say “He lost. The other guy was the better man” and move on. No, there are always all kinds of excuses just like Manny with his losses blaming them on a pair of socks, gloves, a shoulder, etc.
Maybe he can fight Bradley, Diaz, Clottey, Rios, Algieri, etc. instead huh?
Fought nobody at his prime? Let’s see here: Hernandez, Manfredy, Corrales, Hernandez, Chavez, N’dou, Corley, Gatti, Mitchell, Juda, Baldomir, De La Hoya, Hatton, Marquez, Mosley, Cotto, Maidana, etc. And finally Manny.
Went for his first world title at just 18 fights pro and from there on fought guys who doubled him in experience, many unbeaten or with barely one or two losses in their record, and still won with ease.
At least we can agree with something. If Floyd at least pretended to be a nice guy like Manny does people would praise his style and cheer for him. People just don’t like him. Heck, I didn’t like Naseem Hamed but that didn’t bilnd me from seeing what a great defense he had as well as punching power. There are other boxers I don't like but I admit they have skills.
Are you really this clueless? The guys you mentioned that Floyd fought were NOT in their prime (DLH, Mosley, Hernandez, Baldomir, Cotto) and most weren't elite fighters. Don't come at us with Baldomir, N'Dou, Hernandez, Maidana, Manfredy, Corley, Gatti...please!! The ones who doubled him in experience but fought a bunch of nobodies and Floyd fought them at the end of their careers.
Remind us all of who Maidana had to beat in order to get his shot at Floyd...who were his last three opponents leading up to the fight with Floyd and what were their records? Judah just came off a loss to Baldomir, who already had 9 losses when he fought Floyd. Judah also lost to Clottey, so if you are using him as an elite fighter Clottey is better than you give him credit for applying your logic. Gatti was a C-rate fighter on the down slope of his career and even on his best day couldn't win. Manfredy was a joke, Hernandez fought his last fight against Floyd before retiring. N'dou another undisciplined brawler who never fought anyone noteworthy prior to or after Floyd. Corley, a guy who lost to Judah before fighting Floyd and goes on to lose 27 fights in his career, wow, big world beater! Suddenly Rios, Algieri and Diaz aren't looking so bad huh. Bradley is a top five P4P welterweight in his prime, way better than Betro.
You are a fan of Floyd, not a boxing fan. Floyd never defeated a prime "FIRST BALLOT HALL-OF-FAMER", and now he is talking about fighting some MMA scrub for his 50th win, LOL. I don't even know where to start with that one, but you fanboys have all ignored that obvious elephant in the room. Have fun watching that garbage!
Let's get something clear, even if Floyd was a nice guy, no one would like his style of boxing. It's just not entertaining. It is effective and he wins with it, but it is not entertaining. Most defensive style boxers aren't. Fighters such as Duran, Robinson, Toney, Roman Gonzalez, Salvador Sanchez, etc., were exciting to watch, and they possessed both defense and offense. They fought with heart and laid it on the line against the best of their divisions. They applied all of the boxing fundamentals that make a fighter great.
One thing all you bratty Floyd fans have in common is that you like to write antagonistic posts void of any real truth. Like I said, someone will soon break the 50-0 record and eventually someone will make more money too, and then Floyd's entire legacy goes up in smoke. Just like his entire career, smoke and mirrors. Then the dullards and droids such as yourself will need to feed off a new overrated sensation.
Always ducking dangerous opponents in their prime..
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And how is taking a fight against Andre Berto any less respectable than taking a fight against Chris Algieri?
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