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Old 05-01-2013, 08:42 PM
 
Location: Cape Cod
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I saw this on yahoo tonight and thought TRAGIC TRAGIC TRAGIC. I am all for guns and the right for someone to own and shoot one BUT with ownership comes HUGE responsibility and common sense like you don't point a loaded gun at anyone and you certainly don't leave a loaded gun laying around where a kid can get at it. 5 does seem young for the kid to have his own gun that actually shoots bullets and not BB's or hello kitty bubbles but who knows except the parents.
Shooting is a great sport and fun for the whole family but it needs to be conducted safely and when not engaged at the range then the guns should be unloaded and locked up. It is so sad to hear about a tragedy like this shooting.
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Old 05-01-2013, 09:18 PM
 
Location: Somewhere out there
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With the current NRA fueled hysteria, expect more stories like this. It's being portrayed as patriotic to give young kids guns.

Actually, the "current NRA fueled hysteria" you accuse us of is in fact not NRA fueled, but rather a product of the incredibly inane and persistent leftie-tilting socialist news media, that organization that has decided to thoroughly demonize the NRA, but which is hardly some over-funded special interest group any more than PETA is an over-zealous animal rights group. Or that the SPCA should be subdued. Or that, indeed, the Democrat Party might just be a bit over-zealous and biased themselves.

There are literally hundreds of millions of honest law-abiding gun owners in this country. This tragic event has NOTHING to do with their personal ideals, nor those of their representative NRA, as regards firearms ownership. This is quite simply a primo case of an unthinking parent who had not yet learned, but hopefully has now, about the situations and "accidents" that can and do arise with the very young. Her loss, but more severely, the child's future remorse.

In any case, she should indeed be charged with criminal negligence, if for no other reason than to possibly educate the other parents who can't give the appropriate time to their children. What a sad story, but let's not try blaming this one on the NRA, OK? That makes your ideas just another case of wildly immature over-reactions fueled by the socialistá's extreme left "We Know Best" mentality.

Get over yourselves and show at least a modicum of civility and logic here. Otherwise, you're showing your extreme lack of compassion.

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Old 05-01-2013, 09:20 PM
 
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Ah the parents. Few days ago someone entered a house and stabbed an 8 year old girl to death, they 12 year old brother found her. Where were the parents? No a word about it because somehow leaving children home alone is ok. The 12 year old maybe, the 8 year old is going to open a door.

Here, we have the same thing, parents with their heads in some dark place thinking life is grand.

What kills kids almost more than anything else? Opening the kitchen cabinets and drinking cleanser.

Prosecutors usually refrain because the idea is that the parents are already and will suffer enough. Bad move, when the parent is negligent, there is no such thing as enough suffering.

Ask most parents these days what it means to be a parent.

Listen carefully. I bet the first word is usually "I". Think about that.

Since the radicals took over the nation,most suicides now are kids and teens. They are so lonely and lost because they have no guidence and natural affection has been traded for un-natural affections,seldom fathers in the homes and mother working. Obesity also is rampent now,not to speak of millions of babies aborted.

But let some dumb bumpkin give a kid a gun and all hell breaks loose. Libs hate guns yet defend thugs who use them to kill innocents or other thugs. Also ALL rich libs have armed security,they love guns if its for their own protection. Just like the libs in congress have armed guards.

A child was killed and all most libs can do is use his death for their own agendas.

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Old 05-01-2013, 09:28 PM
 
Location: Sinking in the Great Salt Lake
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Handing a loaded rifle to a 5 year old and letting them run amok with it is 1st class stupidity. Sure, call it his rifle, take him out to shoot it, teach him how to be a responsible gun handler but for god sakes keep it in a safe otherwise!

Do they hand their car keys or chainsaw to their 5 year old and tell him to "have fun" too?
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Old 05-01-2013, 09:43 PM
 
Location: Nebraska
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This was a tragedy. Guns do kill young people but so do Pets, bathtubs, car accidents and hundreds of other things.


I was five when I got my first twenty two rifle and I had been shooting guns long before that. My Dad, Grandfather and various Uncles drilled gun safety into my head. Five year old kids CAN handle the responsibility of handling a gun safely IF the adults that teach them do their job properly.

Last winter a three year old kid unlocked the front door of his Chicago home and walked out in to the subzero cold and was found frozen to death the next morning. WHY didn't the parents of that kid explain to him how dangerous it was to go outside? How about putting locks on toilet seats? Mop buckets with locking lids? More two year old kids are killed every year by these items than guns. Don't believe me? Look it up in the CDC statistics.

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Old 05-01-2013, 10:22 PM
 
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This was a tragedy. Guns do kill young people but so do Pets, bathtubs, car accidents and hundreds of other things.
Yes and in rational states, parents or adults who exhibit reckless disregard, as in leaving pools un-gated, small children in bathtubs unattended, children not buckled in car seats, or one hundred other irresponsible things find themselves facing criminal charges even when there isn't a fatality.

Even red meat states like Texas, Florida and North Carolina have laws against negligent storage. But not Kentucky.
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Old 05-01-2013, 10:46 PM
 
Location: State of Transition
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Is there a presumption here that women are not capable of raising children? And if there was a father (coming home drunk and beating the mother or gambling away his paycheck) this wouldn't have happened? Most families without fathers are better off without him. The father, who has visitation one day a week and takes the kids to McDonalds, is probably who gave him the gun.
Just looking for more info to fill out the picture. There are a lot of fundamental questions that have gone un-asked, it seems. No adult checked the gun to make sure it was fully discharged? REALLY??
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Old 05-01-2013, 10:49 PM
 
Location: State of Transition
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5 does seem young for the kid to have his own gun that actually shoots bullets and not BB's or hello kitty bubbles
Now there's an idea! Start 'em out with non-lethal ammo. You'd think there'd be a law about that. I guess that would be too sensible an expectation for America.
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Old 05-01-2013, 11:39 PM
 
Location: San Francisco, CA
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Still I don't understand why would a 5 year old get a gun or play with it? I understand if kids are probably 8 or 9, but 5 come on!
On the politics forum, I tried to get the conservatives defending guns in the hands of little kids to specify an age at which handling a gun is inappropriate and too risky for a small kid. They couldn't give me anything. So we can conclude that conservatives today have no limit on how young a child should be before they are given a lethal weapon. So long as an adult is there, hand that gun to that 16 month-old and show him or her how to squeeze one off! You can't start early enough. If they could get these little creatures firing away before they came out of the womb, they'd do that, too, all in the name of their ego and their deranged politics.

Such is the state of conservatives in America. They are so far gone that they can't even agree that a small kid who hasn't even gone to school yet should not be shooting a gun. And if you point out how insane this obviously is, they twist it into a straw man accusation of wanting to take all guns away from everyone.
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Old 05-02-2013, 12:00 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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If they are old enough to comprehend the words you use they're old enough to teach about gun safety.
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