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Old 09-26-2016, 09:13 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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Yes, and check what is in the vaccines people are shot up with.

This topic has been uppermost since I arrived at C-D. The "alternative/holistic" vs pharma type health care.
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Old 09-27-2016, 06:07 AM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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Yes, and check what is in the vaccines people are shot up with.

This topic has been uppermost since I arrived at C-D. The "alternative/holistic" vs pharma type health care.
Vaccines contain what is on the label and do not contain anything that is not on the label. Their ingredients may sound scary to those who are not literate in chemistry, but they have been shown to be safe.

You cannot say the same for supplement labels.

http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2015/0...etailers/?_r=0

https://www.blumenthal.senate.gov/ne...call-to-action

FDA Finds Potentially Harmful Ingredients in Certain Supplements | US News

FDA official: 70% of supplement companies violate agency rules | Newsday

FDA Dietary Supplements Criminal Charges USPLabs
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Old 09-27-2016, 11:21 AM
 
Location: Southern California
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Well, Suzy as always here, we just disagree. No way do I want any flu shots for my immune system health. I have NEVER had a side effect from my supps, some don't work, but never side effects, can't say that about some drugs I took over my life. Just recently the Ibuprofen and higher blood pressure issue.

I have not gone to the mercury removal from my dental work but I know many who have. How much damage that is all doing, I don't know.

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Old 09-27-2016, 11:37 AM
 
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Ask you doctor if this or that drug is "right for you". There has to be some drug or another for everyone alive. Then we listen to those commercials and all the WARNING signs. Stop taking IMMEDIATELY if you experience bla, bla, bla. Many even say an extreme reaction may be DEATH?????? Do you really want to risk death just to clear up your skin, stop hot flashes, lessen depression, etc., etc.?

When you see them pushing vaccine ads, like Flu or Tdap, on TV do you see ANY warning signs? Of course, not. They have no side effects for anyone whosoever? Why not? Why can all these other drugs have severe reactions, but the vaccines CAN'T? That is totally illogical, and FALSE ADVERTISING.
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Old 09-27-2016, 11:41 AM
 
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Listen to this one. I think it was a couple yrs ago, walking thru my supermarket, the loudspeaker was telling everyone if they got their flu shot, you would be given a 10% discount on your food order. Large markets have pharmacies and are set up to jab people. I almost fell over. The person sounded like a circus barker -- come and get your flu shot.
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Old 09-27-2016, 11:48 AM
 
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Jammin' did you stop taking your Rx for high blood pressure?
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Old 09-27-2016, 11:54 AM
 
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NO, but I'm not spiking and BP is pretty good all in all for my 78 yrs. I even had a 118/81 the other day, taken by the PT in my right arm. Different arms can make a difference too.
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Old 09-27-2016, 12:06 PM
 
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NO, but I'm not spiking and BP is pretty good all in all for my 78 yrs. I even had a 118/81 the other day, taken by the PT in my right arm. Different arms can make a difference too.


So you are pro-pharma for some things?



I heard a big difference of BP between arms can indicate heart trouble.
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Old 09-27-2016, 12:16 PM
 
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So you are pro-pharma for some things?



I heard a big difference of BP between arms can indicate heart trouble.
Mikala, I've put it out there since I came to C-D that I take a few pharma drugs. Wish I didn't have to to be honest, but a couple I do take. I'd like to buy the desiccated thyroid otc but it's a script. I'm seeing a new integrative MD on Nov 1 as my longtime MD is on and off medical leave (back problem I hear), and this integrative office sells the scripted drug in their office. I don't know how they do that, but I don't ask.

I didn't hear about the different arm issue and heart problems. Maybe this new MD will speak on that to me. So much differing info out there to wade thru.
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Old 09-27-2016, 02:36 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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Ask you doctor if this or that drug is "right for you". There has to be some drug or another for everyone alive. Then we listen to those commercials and all the WARNING signs. Stop taking IMMEDIATELY if you experience bla, bla, bla. Many even say an extreme reaction may be DEATH?????? Do you really want to risk death just to clear up your skin, stop hot flashes, lessen depression, etc., etc.?

When you see them pushing vaccine ads, like Flu or Tdap, on TV do you see ANY warning signs? Of course, not. They have no side effects for anyone whosoever? Why not? Why can all these other drugs have severe reactions, but the vaccines CAN'T? That is totally illogical, and FALSE ADVERTISING.
I am not fond of direct to consumer advertising, but all of them say "talk to your doctor", including the ones for vaccines.

False advertising would be if they denied adverse effects exist.

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Listen to this one. I think it was a couple yrs ago, walking thru my supermarket, the loudspeaker was telling everyone if they got their flu shot, you would be given a 10% discount on your food order. Large markets have pharmacies and are set up to jab people. I almost fell over. The person sounded like a circus barker -- come and get your flu shot.

If you do not want the vaccine, do not take it. Why do you get so bent out of shape when stores let their customers know they have the vaccine available? How does other people getting vaccinated harm you?
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