Hungarian neighborhood in Dayton (Troy, Wayne: home, university, living)

[TomJones123]

You are so out of touch with Dayton you really shouldn't comment on it any further.

[CarpathianPeasant]

Originally Posted by TomJones123

You are so out of touch with Dayton you really shouldn't comment on it any further.

I readily admit to being totally out of touch with Beavercreek, Centerville, the likes of Huber Heights and Kettering and even Miami township, the last know residence of a cousin, but I doubt that I am out of touch with Dayton.

I suggest you follow what you want to follow and support it/them to your heart's content, and I'll follow what I want to follow and post what I believe to be correct.

And (comment for the moment), unlike many cities, Dayton has four directions: north, south, east and west.

From Third and Main, it's about four miles to the V.A. (that's west, but not "west side" or "West Dayton"). And, north of West Third street the city is farther west than the V.A. address. It's about four miles to the north corporation limits (that's north, but not "North Dayton" or "Old North Dayton"). The east is not quite so far, and the south is only about a mile and a half down Main, but it is farther south going southwest and southeast.

Dayton goes in four directions unlike towns like Cincinnati, which essentially has no south side.

[TomJones123]

^^ Turn it into Trivial Pursuit all you want, I have given you ample evidence of what the modern day West Side is and that there is also an East End/Side. Though there are four cardinal points to Dayton, no one says they are in the south side or the north side in relation to Dayton. There is Old North Dayton, but unlike the West Side, Old North Dayton refers to a neighborhood and not the North Side.

Please have a few "last word posts" on the house. I am done here.

[Ohiogirl81]

Originally Posted by CarpathianPeasant

From Third and Main, it's about four miles to the V.A. (that's west, but not "west side" or "West Dayton").

It most certainly is in West Dayton. I can't see how anyone could argue otherwise.

[CarpathianPeasant]

Originally Posted by CarpathianPeasant

From Third and Main, it's about four miles to the V.A. (that's west, but not "west side" or "West Dayton").

Originally Posted by Ohiogirl81

It most certainly is in West Dayton. I can't see how anyone could argue otherwise.

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See street address: 4100 West Third. As that is the southwest corner, perhaps the critics would like to unite and call it "southwest Dayton." There is a Southwest Priority board.

As stated, it is west, but not "West Side" as there is no longer any area officially named "West Side" and neither is there any area officially named "West Dayton."

[randomparent]

I happened upon this thread a couple of weeks ago and jumped down the rabbit hole, so to speak. I was born and raised in Dayton, and my internet connection has been burning up researching all sorts of things I never knew about my hometown due to this thread.

In college, I lived in a ratty apartment not far from the Kossuth Colony. My now husband lived in a house near Children's Hospital that has since been demolished. Of the many surprises I've uncovered about the area, I was shocked to find out that a dilapidated low-slung house just a couple of doors down, which we affectionately referred to as the neighborhood crack house, dates to 1829 and was an inn on the old Miami-Erie Canal.

My family is having a bit of a reunion in Dayton in just a few weeks. I am looking forward to sharing my newfound knowledge of my hometown with them. And, of course, we'll also eat the obligatory cabbage roll at the Amber Rose. Thanks for the trip down memory lane, folks!

[CarpathianPeasant]

Originally Posted by randomparent

I happened upon this thread a couple of weeks ago and jumped down the rabbit hole, so to speak. I was born and raised in Dayton, and my internet connection has been burning up researching all sorts of things I never knew about my hometown due to this thread.

In college, I lived in a ratty apartment not far from the Kossuth Colony. My now husband lived in a house near Children's Hospital that has since been demolished. Of the many surprises I've uncovered about the area, I was shocked to find out that a dilapidated low-slung house just a couple of doors down, which we affectionately referred to as the neighborhood crack house, dates to 1829 and was an inn on the old Miami-Erie Canal.

My family is having a bit of a reunion in Dayton in just a few weeks. I am looking forward to sharing my newfound knowledge of my hometown with them. And, of course, we'll also eat the obligatory cabbage roll at the Amber Rose. Thanks for the trip down memory lane, folks!

I'm sending you a link by private message to a site you might find interesting (in case you haven't already found it). If nothing else, it might cut down one the internet searching.

[randomparent]

Originally Posted by CarpathianPeasant

I'm sending you a link by private message to a site you might find interesting (in case you haven't already found it). If nothing else, it might cut down one the internet searching.

I love the thrill of the chase, but I'm grateful for the link nonetheless. I spent some time this morning planning a trip to the AF Museum, Carillon Park, and Hawthorn Hill for my youngest child, who is obsessed with all things airborn. I also perused photos of the flood. Amazing!

The Kossuth Colony is an interesting story. The stockade fence, according to one source I read, was torn down by the residents to build rafts for rescue efforts following the March 1913 flood. It was not, as some seem to suspect, meant to keep the Hungarian workers in, but rather to keep other companies from poaching Barney & Smith's employees in a tight labor market.

I also enjoyed reading about the beginnings of South Park and St. Anne's Hill, both of which were the homes of previous generations of my family. I suspect the troublesome youth from Sliderstown (now South Park as I understand it), who wreaked such havoc on Patterson's factory windows might have included some of my paternal ancestors!

[SmartGXL]

Originally Posted by randomparent

I happened upon this thread a couple of weeks ago and jumped down the rabbit hole, so to speak. I was born and raised in Dayton, and my internet connection has been burning up researching all sorts of things I never knew about my hometown due to this thread.

In college, I lived in a ratty apartment not far from the Kossuth Colony. My now husband lived in a house near Children's Hospital that has since been demolished. Of the many surprises I've uncovered about the area, I was shocked to find out that a dilapidated low-slung house just a couple of doors down, which we affectionately referred to as the neighborhood crack house, dates to 1829 and was an inn on the old Miami-Erie Canal.

My family is having a bit of a reunion in Dayton in just a few weeks. I am looking forward to sharing my newfound knowledge of my hometown with them. And, of course, we'll also eat the obligatory cabbage roll at the Amber Rose. Thanks for the trip down memory lane, folks!

RandomParent - glad that you liked the thread that I created!! Cheers!

[Spotsandsplashes]

I remember visiting my Hungarian-born paternal grandparents who lived in the West Side Colony, near the railroad tracks on the north side of Edison Street. I thrilled to the locomotive whistles and the waves from the engineers as the trains steamed their way through the intersection. I can still see my grandfather's old truck parked between the railroad tracks. Their home and the home next to it where a aunt and her family lived still stand.

My Hungarian-born maternal grandmother lived further out West Third Street on Ventura Avenue. Her mother and step-father owned the property before her.

Her two older sisters owned bars-restaurants. One was called "The Loop". My mother says she remembered it being located on Main St., at the end of the bus line at that time. She says the other location was somewhere on Wayne Avenue. She does not remember the name.

My mother has a photograph of my maternal grandmother, her two older sisters and two younger sisters (all born in Hungary) at a celebration at Kenders.

The husband of one of my great-aunts worked at Maleable Iron. My mother tells the story of how when she was young he would smile and wave to her from an upper story window as she walked by.

Hungarian names associated with my ancestors are: Bakos, Bysak, Cszpanyi (spl.), Gulyas, Hegedus, Kovacs, Szegedy(i), and Vargo(a). Pictures of some of the people can be found on the Find A Grave website.

I have never been to the Amber Rose restaurant. I plan to do so soon!