Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
Since you didn't reply to my earlier question, maybe you can reply to this one. Others said you can get insulin for $25 without a perscription at Walmart. Why can't you do that? Seriously, I would like to understand.
Its garbage. its the old stuff. Thats how it rolls
I guess I shoud calm the heck down. I can get the old more dangouse stuff but I am experienced at this diabetes thing. I know what a low feels like.
I always carry OTC sweets. I dont go anywhere without some sweets in my pocket.
Sometimes I am like cool a low, I can have a candy bar. Going low sucks but at least you can eat.
Its garbage. its the old stuff. Thats how it rolls
Okay, I'll google it to see the difference between the old and new insulin. Thanks for the answer.
quick question before I google: was the old stuff deadly? That's awful! I'm so sorry for you, I never knew about all of this. I have a 21 year old nephew with type 1, I can also ask him but he probably never had to take the old deadly version. How long was the deadly version the only one being sold?
Okay, I'll google it to see the difference between the old and new insulin. Thanks for the answer.
quick question before I google: was the old stuff deadly? That's awful! I'm so sorry for you, I never knew about all of this. I have a 21 year old nephew with type 1, I can also ask him but he probably never had to take the old deadly version. How long was the deadly version the only one being sold?
All types of insulin are deadly. Old, new, doesn't matter. You need to be really careful with the stuff. If it's injected without consuming enough carbohydrates afterwords, the results can be not good.
By the way, many people probably don't know that this exists, so I thought I'd post it here, in case it might be able to help some people...
I mistakenly said Humalog before when I was trying to talk about this stuff. Anyways, Novolog made a deal with Walmart and Sam's Club to sell this stuff, which is a good, modern type of short acting insulin for $73 for a vial or $86 for a 5 pack of pens. This is the cash price without insurance. If you have insurance, the price should be even cheaper. The normal price for "non-Relion" branded Novolog is about $300. You do need a prescription for it, and your prescription should say either generic replacements are OK or it should specifically be for "Relion" brand Novolog from Walmart/Sam's Club. For some reason Walmart/Sams Club also stock and are more than happy to keep selling the $300 version right along side of this stuff. The only difference is that it doesn't have word "Relion" printed on the label (in really small print that's hard to see).
Also as I mentioned in a previous post, it's also worth doing a search for a manufacturer's savings card for whatever brand insulin you use, or perhaps something like GoodRX, which I really don't know much about but I think can be a good thing.
All types of insulin are deadly. Old, new, doesn't matter. You need to be really careful with the stuff. If it's injected without consuming enough carbohydrates afterwords, the results can be not good.
By the way, many people probably don't know that this exists, so I thought I'd post it here, in case it might be able to help some people...
I mistakenly said Humalog before when I was trying to talk about this stuff. Anyways, Novolog made a deal with Walmart and Sam's Club to sell this stuff, which is a good, modern type of short acting insulin for $73 for a vial or $86 for a 5 pack of pens. This is the cash price without insurance. If you have insurance, the price should be even cheaper. The normal price for "non-Relion" branded Novolog is about $300. You do need a prescription for it, and your prescription should say either generic replacements are OK or it should specifically be for "Relion" brand Novolog from Walmart/Sam's Club. For some reason Walmart/Sams Club also stock and are more than happy to keep selling the $300 version right along side of this stuff. The only difference is that it doesn't have word "Relion" printed on the label (in really small print that's hard to see).
Also as I mentioned in a previous post, it's also worth doing a search for a manufacturer's savings card for whatever brand insulin you use, or perhaps something like GoodRX, which I really don't know much about but I think can be a good thing.
interesting about Novolog. I know a TYPE 1 diabetic who takes it. It has been a nightmare at times getting it out of a well known chain pharmacy and/or their mail order co. And even with Medicare, the patient is paying alot more than$86. And the pharmacy always has excuses. Its criminal. According to my friends specialist, Humalog is interchangeable with Novolog. Doesnt mean you can get it though.
Its garbage. its the old stuff. Thats how it rolls
I guess I shoud calm the heck down. I can get the old more dangouse stuff but I am experienced at this diabetes thing. I know what a low feels like.
I always carry OTC sweets. I dont go anywhere without some sweets in my pocket.
Sometimes I am like cool a low, I can have a candy bar. Going low sucks but at least you can eat.
The real "old" stuff was animal insulin. It was discontinued in this country yrs ago when the synthetics came out. I believe its still sold in other countrys. Some people who have been type 1 diabetics since childhood and are now elderly, always claimed that the animal insulin did a better job than the synthetics. They were sorry to see it go.
There are basically 2 types of insulin. Long acting and short acting. Long acting is typically taken once or twice a day, and the dosage is typically always the same.
Short acting is usually taken right before you eat or drink anything that has carbohydrates in it, and it will vary depending on what and how much you are eating and drinking. You have to do your best guestimate of how many carbs you are about to consume and then do some math in your head in order to give yourself the right dosage of insulin. If you guess wrong and take a little too much insulin, it can be very dangerous.
Insulin pens and the old-school vial and needle method both work pretty much the same way. You figure out how many units you need, and then you stab it into yourself and shove in the juice.
I take both types of insulin, with both methods. My long acting is vial and needle, short acting is a pen.
How do you live like that?! I would be dead so fast I would not be here to type this if I had to keep track like that. I can only at this point hope I don't end up needing the liquid injection insulin. So far I only take the pills. I have a relative who is on what is called the pump. I guess that helps to inject what is needed automatically. I hope I never get to that point either. I would never survive all that having to guess what freaking carbs I would be eating before injecting and honestly injecting a needle into my body all the time every day I don't know that I would do that either.
When I was really sick and couldn't eat or drink for two days. It was so horrible not keeping anything down. I managed to check my sugar and to my surprise it was insanely high for me. But I had no food or fluids in me. I finally called the Doctors office and found out it was my body doing that to compensate for lack of anything in my body. I finally got the ambulance to get me to the hospital since the Doctors office kept telling me I needed IV fluids in me. I can't understand why I didn't pass out. I didn't break out in swelter soupy sweat like I would do when it's low. But it just didn't go low. It must be something to do with my body knowing the difference between sick empty stomach and not sick just no carbs empty stomach. Is it like that for Type 1 also.
I don't blame you one bit for being upset. There needs to be a better way for Doctors and Pharmacy's
help the patient. Not just the expense but auto refill would be good for you.
Here they have it where the patient goes to the Doctor every 3 to 4 months and gets the approval or change in medication. The pharmacy usually now has 3 months supply delivered for reoccuring medication and for patients who must go back to the Doctor every 3 to 4 months.
No delivery for emergency medication the hospital doctor prescribes like as if that isn't important enough to deliver when the patient is half dead and exhausted from coming home from the hospital Medicare and other Insurances if people have that cannot get the delivery paid for so either pick it up or pay for the delivery yourself.
Okay, I'll google it to see the difference between the old and new insulin. Thanks for the answer.
quick question before I google: was the old stuff deadly? That's awful! I'm so sorry for you, I never knew about all of this. I have a 21 year old nephew with type 1, I can also ask him but he probably never had to take the old deadly version. How long was the deadly version the only one being sold?
Most of my life I used the ”deadly” stuff - because, you know, that was the only option. It’s not deadly, it’s life saving. It kept me alive for decades. It did require more awareness of your body’s reaction to food, exercise, and dosages. It did require more personal self discipline. But would I use it again before buying expired insulin off the streets? Without hesitation. Anyone who would buy expired insulin from the streets over getting the Walmart vials is an idiot. Not only is it more expensive based on what the poster claims, but there is a very real possibility it has been tampered with. What kind of moron takes that kind of risk? That has way more risk of death than using the old type of insulin.
__________________
When I post in bold red that is moderator action and, per the TOS, can only be discussed through Direct Message.
I resent I don't have the freedom to get 'caught out there' and just buy some insulin without the medical system hassle. I resent the sh*t out of that far more then the jacked up cost.
You cant get high on insulin or have any 'fun' with it like pain meds and other prescription drugs, so what the hell?
In Canada just walk in and buy any insulin, America jump through medical system hoops like your on f6cking probation or at the DMV and get ripped off.
I was told by my Dr that I am prediabetic. That was in 2019. I never take the medication from the Dr. I am taking an all natural pill that has over 15,000 reviews! It works to reverse diabetes, lower cholesterol, lowers bloods pressure and helps with weight loss. I weighed 208 lbs a few months back. I am at 174 now. Goal is 145. PM me if you want to know more
I am doing the belly fat cure. 120 grams of carbs per day and 15 grams of sugar.
However, I can still drink Captain Morgan rum, 1 carb no sugar in herbal caffeine tea.
Kids do not move around enough these days. It is also from all those empty calories from soda pop, juice fruit it is all full of sugar.
I was told by my Dr that I am prediabetic. That was in 2019. I never take the medication from the Dr. I am taking an all natural pill that has over 15,000 reviews! It works to reverse diabetes, lower cholesterol, lowers bloods pressure and helps with weight loss. I weighed 208 lbs a few months back. I am at 174 now. Goal is 145. PM me if you want to know more
I am doing the belly fat cure. 120 grams of carbs per day and 15 grams of sugar.
However, I can still drink Captain Morgan rum, 1 carb no sugar in herbal caffeine tea.
Kids do not move around enough these days. It is also from all those empty calories from soda pop, juice fruit it is all full of sugar.
That's awesome that you're doing so good. Sounds like you've been working really hard to get yourself onto the right track, and it's working.
Unfortunately, I would venture to guess that Too Sweet has the much less common "Type 1" version of the disease, which can't be helped by diet or exercise (or pills).
With this type, even if you were as skinny as you could possibly be and you ate the healthiest low-carb diet as possible, without having insulin to inject into yourself you would most likely only last a few days before being dead.
So far, the only way to reverse Type 1 is to get a pancreas transplant, but then you would need to start taking anti-rejection drugs and would be basically just be trading one set of problems for another.
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.
Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
How long was the deadly version the only one being sold?
Medicare and other Insurances if people have that cannot get the delivery paid for so either pick it up or pay for the delivery yourself.
