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Old 11-05-2023, 08:48 AM
 
Location: Suburbia
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We have a Bolt and a Volt. They both fit our needs. We drive each one around 6-7k miles a year. I understand that no one vehicle meets everyone’s needs and I don’t think anyone should be “forced” into driving an EV.

Why should anyone care what someone else chooses to drive?

The Bolt is a 2019 that we bought used in 2021 for $19k, so not super expensive. I do wish more PHEVs with the range of the Volt could be manufactured. We do almost all of our driving on electric and there is gas if we need it, which is seldom. We have easily taken the Bolt to visit our son (140 miles each way). In general we don’t drive very long distances.
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Old 11-05-2023, 08:53 AM
 
Location: WA
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I will not buy an EV in my (short) remaining lifetime. The trade-offs in the vehicles and charging infrastructure make it an unattractive option. I own one car with a performance V8 and another with a turbo-4 and have no desire to switch from them.
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Old 11-05-2023, 09:06 AM
 
Location: New England
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I'm not interested unless charging stations are as numerous as gas stations. Better range and shorter recharge times play into feasibility as well.
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Old 11-05-2023, 09:12 AM
 
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I'm not interested unless charging stations are as numerous as gas stations. Better range and shorter recharge times play into feasibility as well.
There's a charging station 0 miles from my house: my house.

I know and fully appreciate not everyone has a living situation that supports this.
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Old 11-05-2023, 09:13 AM
 
Location: Free State of Florida
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Its hard for me to say "ever".

For now, the purchase price, & insurance costs are both higher than I care to spend.

I do like the looks of the Rivian SUV though. The dual motor perf pack costs $90k.

Sell me a 2024 Rivian for $70k, & insure it for <$2k/yr, & I'm all in.
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Old 11-05-2023, 09:14 AM
 
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Its hard for me to say "ever".

For now, the purchase price, & insurance costs are both higher than I care to spend.

I do like the looks of the Rivian SUV though. The dual motor perf pack costs $90k.

Sell me a 2024 Rivian for $70k, & insure it for <$2k/yr, & I'm all in.
I get it but what similarly-equipped and capable ICE SUVs are you cross-shopping that are much cheaper?
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Old 11-05-2023, 09:17 AM
 
Location: New Jersey!!!!
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There's a charging station 0 miles from my house: my house.

I know and fully appreciate not everyone has a living situation that supports this.
Same, I couldn’t imagine caring about what another person chooses to drive. The frustration is that anti’s don’t assess their actual driving needs before rattling off all the tired reasons why EVs “don’t work”.
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Old 11-05-2023, 09:29 AM
 
Location: western NY
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I can understand your reticence, but I have the viewpoint that, not unlike how personal computers have played out, there is no such thing as bug free and fully evolved. If one considers the tech of ICE vehicles "mature" then manufacturing recalls would be rare and notable. They aren't and will never be, as is true of EV products as well although that curve has dropped considerably in more recent examples of EV's.
But why have even ICE vehicles become more subject to recalls? Because they're no longer the basic, UN-COMPLICATED cars that they once were. As an example, when electronic ignition systems were introduced, there were reliability issues. And the problem was, and still is, for that matter, when an electronic ignition system fails, it's DEAD. The older, "breaker points" distributors would give you some notice, and the car would start to run rough, but not completely crap out, so you had some warning, and could schedule a tune-up. And as cars, ANY car, becomes more electronically controlled, the possibility for a total failure, become more pssible.

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I'd buy one if they were less costly, had a much longer range, much faster charging with no wait options equal to pulling into a gas station today, weren't nearly as affected by the Cold, and didn't risk burning my house down should it catch fire while charging IN my garage.

So no, not going to happen anytime soon.
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Old 11-05-2023, 10:02 AM
 
Location: Newburyport, MA
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I am not ready to buy yet, but certainly never is way too strong for me. I need to watch my dollars plus when I retire I want to do a lot of rural towing - lonnnnng roadtrips towing a teardrop camper, so it'll probably be after I get that out of my system. If I were to guess, I'd say that I'll be ready in about 5 years, and the vehicles and charging networks will have progressed a good deal in that time too.
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Old 11-05-2023, 11:00 AM
 
Location: Beautiful Four Oaks
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Like everything else getting shoved down our throats, the government needs to be honest about how real or not EV's are to "saving the environment". I suspect very little if any at all. The damage in other ways offsets any assumed carbon footprint deductions.

Also, because of the limited battery life, there will be no "used car market" for those who cannot afford new... which is many of us.

Yea, I'm staying with my combustible engine. More reliable, longer lasting, more affordable.

That's where I stand.
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