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In the PNW region of the US, Washington is very culturally connected to British Columbia, Canada, so much so that the border is almost non existent for many. Seattle and Vancouver have a similar climate and "the Seattle freeze" exists in both cities. When it comes to northeast region of the US, you have states like New York, Vermont, New Hampshire, and Maine that border Quebec. Which of these states would you say is the most connected to Quebec?
Plattsburgh is nicknamed "Montreal's U.S. suburb."
Montreal and NYC are also only 5 hours or so apart by car, making the I-87 corridor through the entire state of NY a direct, important link between Quebec and NY state.
Half of Quebec's population lives in Montreal.
In short, New York, as the most important city in Quebec is directly tied to the most important city in NY (and the US.)
Plattsburgh is nicknamed "Montreal's U.S. suburb."
Montreal and NYC are also only 5 hours or so apart by car, making the I-87 corridor through the entire state of NY a direct, important link between Quebec and NY state.
Half of Quebec's population lives in Montreal.
In short, New York, as the most important city in Quebec is directly tied to the most important city in NY (and the US.)
The Answer in Maine not New York. Maine has a big francophone population. (Larger than Upstate NY in raw numbers, let alone proportion)
The vast majority of NYS have absolutely nothing to do with Quebec. While the Quebec influenced areas of Maine are a significant part of its population. NH and VT also are pretty large Québécois’s populations but NH’s center of gravity in in like Derry. So I think VT is 2.
It’s ME, VT, NH then NY
Your link shows almost a million border crossings into Vermont, a state of 630,000 people. 1.25 million into Maine, a state of 1.3 million and ~6 million into New York a state of 19 million (not to mention pretty much from much of Montreal even places like Stratton or Killington it’s pretty reasonable to use the New York crossing to get where you’re going. Plus the entire rest of the US.
I’m kid since the entire rest of the border crossing with NY other than a bit is water, there are almost no small border crossings in the state unlike VT or NH or Maine that just have tons of small ones across the border
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The Answer in Maine not New York. Maine has a big francophone population. (Larger than Upstate NY in raw numbers, let alone proportion)
The vast majority of NYS have absolutely nothing to do with Quebec. While the Quebec influenced areas of Maine are a significant part of its population. NH and VT also are pretty large Québécois’s populations but NH’s center of gravity in in like Derry. So I think VT is 2.
It’s ME, VT, NH then NY
Your link shows almost a million border crossings into Vermont, a state of 630,000 people. 1.25 million into Maine, a state of 1.3 million and ~6 million into New York a state of 19 million (not to mention pretty much from much of Montreal even places like Stratton or Killington it’s pretty reasonable to use the New York crossing to get where you’re going. Plus the entire rest of the US.
I’m kid since the entire rest of the border crossing with NY other than a bit is water, there are almost no small border crossings in the state unlike VT or NH or Maine that just have tons of small ones across the border
Perhaps from an American perspective I can see this.
I grew up in Montreal, and no one travelled to Vermont or Maine. Pretty much everyone I knew and still know routinely go back and forth between NY (Lake George and Saratoga for mountains and resorts, including owned cottages, Plattsburgh for groceries and whatnot, and NYC.) Pretty much everyone who uses the Plattsburgh airport is going to or from Montreal, using it as an alternative too Trudeau International.. I guess I’m speaking from a Montreal perspective. But that accounts for half of Quebec.
I suspect Montreal is most connected to New York, while the rest of the province gravitates towards upper New England, probably Maine being the strongest connection.
Perhaps from an American perspective I can see this.
I grew up in Montreal, and no one travelled to Vermont or Maine. Pretty much everyone I knew and still know routinely go back and forth between NY (Lake George and Saratoga for mountains and resorts, including owned cottages, Plattsburgh for groceries and whatnot, and NYC.) I guess I’m speaking from a Montreal perspective. But that accounts for half of Quebec.
If you are for which state is Quebec most important? It’s ME, VT, NH, NY
If the question is Which state is most important to Quebec? It’s NY, ME, VT, NH just cause New York is so much more important generally than VT
So I understand your “the answer in NY”
But the question ti me sounds like it’s from the states perspective
Also Old Orchard is a huge quebecois destination. Like when they proposed a Montreal to Boston train it cut thru Lewiston/Old Orchard then followed the Downeaster to Boston. Going skiing in the Whites you do hear a lot of French as well.
I’ve never been to that part of the country so I wouldn’t really know, but I would assume that Maine is closer to the Maritime provinces than with Quebec, especially since there’s very little development along the Maine/Quebec border. So then that leaves Vermont and New York, and I would give the edge to Vermont. Burlington the largest city in Vermont is just 43 miles from the border. Also Beebe plain is a town split right down the middle where their “Main Street” formers the border. Also Vermont used to be part of New France, hence the name of the state meaning green mountain in French.
The Answer in Maine not New York. Maine has a big francophone population. (Larger than Upstate NY in raw numbers, let alone proportion)
The vast majority of NYS have absolutely nothing to do with Quebec. While the Quebec influenced areas of Maine are a significant part of its population. NH and VT also are pretty large Québécois’s populations but NH’s center of gravity in in like Derry. So I think VT is 2.
It’s ME, VT, NH then NY
Your link shows almost a million border crossings into Vermont, a state of 630,000 people. 1.25 million into Maine, a state of 1.3 million and ~6 million into New York a state of 19 million (not to mention pretty much from much of Montreal even places like Stratton or Killington it’s pretty reasonable to use the New York crossing to get where you’re going. Plus the entire rest of the US.
I’m kid since the entire rest of the border crossing with NY other than a bit is water, there are almost no small border crossings in the state unlike VT or NH or Maine that just have tons of small ones across the border
Yeah, the most direct route to Florida (or beaches not quite as far) seems to be through New York State, whether that's coming from Montreal or even Quebec City.
Old Orchard Beach is the Riviera Quebecoise, and Lewiston contains the largest number of French speakers of any municipality in the US.
So very surprised VT is beating ME.
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New York.
Plattsburgh is nicknamed "Montreal's U.S. suburb."
I can imagine MTL leaning towards NYS, but what about the rest of the province?
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