Why Houston, Texas is Losing Residents. (Dallas, Montgomery: crime, school, contractors)

[oil capital]

Originally Posted by utche96

He is referring to long-time residents not new residents. He is correct. There is an increase in long-time residents moving out of the Greater Houston area.

What is the source of that information?

[utche96]

Originally Posted by oil capital

What is the source of that information?

Not sure what his source is (sounds like he is using census data). I'm basing it on my own observations. I know several long time residents who have left the Greater Houston area for a variety of reasons. Remote work has made it easier to liver further away from the city. In fact, I am one of those long-term residents who just relocated to the burbs.

[a_guerrajr]

Based on traffic , dead wrong.

[As Above So Below...]

Originally Posted by utche96

Not sure what his source is (sounds like he is using census data). I'm basing it on my own observations. I know several long time residents who have left the Greater Houston area for a variety of reasons. Remote work has made it easier to liver further away from the city. In fact, I am one of those long-term residents who just relocated to the burbs.

A Briggs is not great with data. Some of what data he claims turns out to no be true. Hes definitely not using data.census.gov.

Looking at who does leave the city of Houston from data.census.gov, they tend to be white and 40s or older.

[utche96]

Originally Posted by As Above So Below...

Looking at who does leave the city of Houston from data.census.gov, they tend to be white and 40s or older.

That feels consistent with my anecdotal observations. Mostly middle aged office professionals. Only need to be in the office 2-3 times a week instead of 5. More willing to commute further for an improved quality of life for their families.

[oil capital]

Originally Posted by As Above So Below...

A Briggs is not great with data. Some of what data he claims turns out to no be true. Hes definitely not using data.census.gov.

Looking at who does leave the city of Houston from data.census.gov, they tend to be white and 40s or older.

One suspects most cities are experiencing similar patterns.
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[LocalPlanner]

Originally Posted by utche96

That feels consistent with my anecdotal observations. Mostly middle aged office professionals. Only need to be in the office 2-3 times a week instead of 5. More willing to commute further for an improved quality of life for their families.

I'm curious what they think provides so much higher quality of life in outer suburbs vs the middle and inner suburbs. Though masterplanned communities do have much more substantial amenity packages (especially trails and open spaces) than the older suburbs do, so wanting to take advantage of that would make sense.

[Mr. Clutch]

Originally Posted by LocalPlanner

I'm curious what they think provides so much higher quality of life in outer suburbs vs the middle and inner suburbs. Though masterplanned communities do have much more substantial amenity packages (especially trails and open spaces) than the older suburbs do, so wanting to take advantage of that would make sense.

Perception of crime, schools.

[DabOnEm]

Originally Posted by Mr. Clutch

Perception of crime, schools.

Neither of those are perceptions. Schools in the suburbs tend to be higher rated than the city, and of course criime of all types is typically lower in the suburbs. Of course Houston suburbs are more unique due to the unincorporated nature of them but it still holds true.

[detachable arm]

I live in a quiet part of the city proper and population is certainly stagnating... I would not be surprised if it is shrinking by 1-2%. We already know the TX burbs have been exploding for 30+ yrs, pulling in middle and upper-middle class families. And the city proper has systematically driven these people out, but that is not unique among large cities. City proper = for the wealthy, the young, or for people who don't care that HISD is a bit of a disaster. And let's not forget the biggest group of all: poor to lower-middle class minorities which comprises the majority of Houston proper. And with that comes the violent crime you see on the news every single day. No one decent wants to live around that... even people who get the means leave those areas. Enough of that flight leaves an area brain-drained, drug-addled and even a bit inbred-- go visit today's Rust Belt for instance. It'd be an interesting scenario indeed if we further reduced fossil fuel usage.