Why Houston, Texas is Losing Residents. (Dallas, Austin: real estate, low crime, move to)

[As Above So Below...]

Originally Posted by oil capital

One suspects most cities are experiencing similar patterns.
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Literally all the major cities in the US are experiencing similar trends. Why the YouTuber in question singled out Houston is a head scratcher.

[As Above So Below...]

Originally Posted by detachable arm

It'd be an interesting scenario indeed if we further reduced fossil fuel usage.

I don't worry about that on Houston's behalf. Houston is grabbing a very large portion of the green energy jobs created and the oil giants of today are the green energy giants of tomorrow.

[atadytic19]

The city population decreased by 0.7% during civid and it's a mass exodus, but Dallas decreased by 1.2% and not a peep. If it's a mass exodus with a .7% decrease then he should be calling it an apocalypse in Dallas, yet again people are in here going on and on about certain areas stagnating.

Not sure why some always think Houston operates in a bubble. Crime goes up everywhere in the US but it's only out of control in Houston. City propers lose population across the country and there's a mass exodus.

Stop taking the bait. It is a national trend people and Houston wasn't even hit that hard.

[LocalPlanner]

Originally Posted by DabOnEm

Neither of those are perceptions. Schools in the suburbs tend to be higher rated than the city, and of course criime of all types is typically lower in the suburbs. Of course Houston suburbs are more unique due to the unincorporated nature of them but it still holds true.

Both a large chunk of the City of Houston and much of the unincorporated area around it would be considered "suburbs" (unless you're one of those folks who think everything east of Barker Cypress and south of Cypress Creek is "inner city"). Most of that area is not HISD either. I don't have specifics on population change in this area, but during COVID Harris County's total population reduced - then started growing again last year.

Anyway, I understand why the cost of the "nicer" areas of the urban core of Houston, and the long standing issues plaguing historically "not nice" areas of the core, would encourage residents (particularly families with children) to leave, but why the inner / middle suburbs? They are suburbs, after all.

[DaBears02]

Originally Posted by atadytic19

The city population decreased by 0.7% during civid and it's a mass exodus, but Dallas decreased by 1.2% and not a peep. If it's a mass exodus with a .7% decrease then he should be calling it an apocalypse in Dallas, yet again people are in here going on and on about certain areas stagnating.

Not sure why some always think Houston operates in a bubble. Crime goes up everywhere in the US but it's only out of control in Houston. City propers lose population across the country and there's a mass exodus.

Stop taking the bait. It is a national trend people and Houston wasn't even hit that hard.

Yeah lol it’s pure bait. Also most people who left Houston/Harris County just went to Fort Bend or Montgomery. It’s not like Greater Houston lost population.

[detachable arm]

Originally Posted by As Above So Below...

I don't worry about that on Houston's behalf. Houston is grabbing a very large portion of the green energy jobs created and the oil giants of today are the green energy giants of tomorrow.

Northeast to Southeast Houston will be seriously affected if manufacturing slows or stops.. which would have a ripple effect on all the various contractors and businesses around there. I think it will hollow out that whole side of town, as well as all the towns to the east along I-10 & 225… that’s about a 25x15 mile patch. But you know what they say about putting all your eggs in one basket…

[ParaguaneroSwag]

Originally Posted by detachable arm

Northeast to Southeast Houston will be seriously affected if manufacturing slows or stops.. which would have a ripple effect on all the various contractors and businesses around there. I think it will hollow out that whole side of town, as well as all the towns to the east along I-10 & 225… that’s about a 25x15 mile patch. But you know what they say about putting all your eggs in one basket…

I have never worried about the loss of corporate jobs. But I used to worry about manufacturing jobs in SE Houston being affected by alternative energy. I have since stopped worrying. And I have stopped worrying even with the reality they may not completely offset manufacturing jobs. Here’s why

1. It’s too far to the distant future. It will happen anyway which does raise its concern, this combines with point 2 below

2. There’s A LOT of manufacturing jobs in the pipeline in the region. AASB mentioned modern energy jobs, but these aren’t even the leaders. The BioPort and Port Expansion are the 2 largest projects (then there’s others like the Daikin plant and so forth). The region is going through a logistics boom. So a shortage of new industrial jobs isn’t a problem. That combined with how long it will take to truly be petroleum free, make it unlikely that manufacturing jobs make it a net negative.

3. This is part of a much bigger, not energy/Houston/Texas specific problem that is automation. As others have mentioned above, we get a specific hit but it’s still a chapter in the global problem that is automation replacing jobs.

The one concern I do, however, have is they even these sort of jobs (minus the port expansion, I guess) are going to NW side of the region rather than SE. making a decline of SE HOU and suburbs entirely possible.

[airdrawndagger]

Despite everyone seemingly "leaving" the city for the suburbs, ITL Houston is nicer and cleaner than I can ever remember. Leaps and bounds better today than its condition circa 80s and 90s

[LocalPlanner]

Originally Posted by airdrawndagger

Despite everyone seemingly "leaving" the city for the suburbs, ITL Houston is nicer and cleaner than I can ever remember. Leaps and bounds better today than its condition circa 80s and 90s

It's not that uncommon for larger, low to moderate income family households to leave the urban core and be replaced by smaller but more affluent households. This can still lead to a drop in total population (and certainly leads to a drop in school enrollment).

[Mr. Football]

He is just talking about City of Houston, the Houston MSA is booming.

Is this guy paid by the State of California to do negative pieces on Texas cities?