[movin1]

Originally Posted by aces777

Yes, that makes sense.

There are other places, like Stillwater, Oklahoma or Norman, Oklahoma, that offer excellent value as well. If the cold weather is not an issue, then consider Big Ten Schools in the Midwest, like Bloomington, or West Lafayette, Indiana, and Lansing, Michigan.

I went to the University of Illinois in Urbana and worked there for 32 years. It's a very nice place to live if you can afford the property taxes and stand the weather. I moved to Las Vegas when I retired, much better weather, no state income tax, and low property taxes.

[aces777]

Originally Posted by movin1

I went to the University of Illinois in Urbana and worked there for 32 years. It's a very nice place to live if you can afford the property taxes and stand the weather. I moved to Las Vegas when I retired, much better weather, no state income tax, and low property taxes.

I feel "stuck" in Henderson, NV right now because of my 3% interest rate that I got in 2009. Good place to be settled in, though, when you do consider the weather, tax breaks, and SUN. I would say the SUN is the main reason I likely won't leave Southern Nevada. Although, I do see myself living on the East Coast from Memorial Day to Thanksgiving. At least that is the plan.

[BabyBoomers2]

Originally Posted by movin1

I went to the University of Illinois in Urbana and worked there for 32 years. It's a very nice place to live if you can afford the property taxes and stand the weather. I moved to Las Vegas when I retired, much better weather, no state income tax, and low property taxes.

I wouldn't call the wind and high temps of Las Vegas "much better". But, "to each their own". Many folks here (Henderson) and in Vegas love living here, however, we have met some that don't like it at all. For whatever reasons, they can't move. We are just lucky that we can.

[BabyBoomers2]

Originally Posted by aces777

I feel "stuck" in Henderson, NV right now because of my 3% interest rate that I got in 2009. Good place to be settled in, though, when you do consider the weather, tax breaks, and SUN. I would say the SUN is the main reason I likely won't leave Southern Nevada. Although, I do see myself living on the East Coast from Memorial Day to Thanksgiving. At least that is the plan.

Not so much "the sun", but jobs are luring many thousands of people here. Funny, but people in So. Nevada don't even want to be associated with northern Nevada and visa-versa. Just like the difference between northern/central California don't want to be associated with So California.

[apple92680]

Originally Posted by BabyBoomers2

We haven't been back to So California since we left in May 2002, but my wife's older sister still lives in Ontario and she has told us many, many times how bad the traffic is there. She sometimes drives down to OC to see her daughter's family and has told us how bad the traffic is.

So, with this in mind, there must still be plenty of folks that live/work in So California. There is, and has always been lower-income areas of So Calif. and people still live in those areas.

IOW, no city, big or small, in California, is empty of people. There are those, like my wife's sister, that will never/ever move out of So California. And, she definitely isn't rich or "well off" at all.

I'm not well off, and I don't want to live anywhere but Southern California.

I tickled the idea of moving to Las Vegas at one point while I was in my 30s, over 20 years ago, but subsequent visits since then have pretty much cemented my opposition to it at this point.

My wife and I are educators. The Clark County School District is terrible, and please don't bother trying to convince me otherwise. The pay is terrible, the benefits are terrible and the overall work environment is terrible unless you happen to have a connection to someone who can get you a district office job.

You're hours from anything! If you've done Mt. Charleston and Red Rock Canyon, done Lake Mead and Valley of Fire, done Zion and Bryce, there's nothing else. There are no beaches, no wineries, no mountain towns with lakes and forests. All of those things are 4-5 hours away! Where I am now, north of LA, I can get to anything I want in less than two hours.

The medical situation in Las Vegas (and most of Nevada, for that matter) is terrible. California, for all of its issues, at least invests in its health care system through research finding at the University of California campuses, the private university investments and through a joint private-public investment in health care funding and research!

[cre8lite]

Originally Posted by apple92680

There are no beaches, no wineries, no mountain towns with lakes and forests. All of those things are 4-5 hours away!

ahem! pahrump is an hour away from vegas & while i know you think of us as gum on the bottom of your shoe, we do have wineries/distillers here

https://sanderswinery.com/
https://artesiancellars.com/
https://thewinedownnv.com/
https://desertcanedistillery.com/ (web page isn't working?!?!)
https://stonewise.com/

coming soon
https://thevillagerny.com/steelbound...n-the-horizon/

[BabyBoomers2]

Originally Posted by apple92680

I'm not well off, and I don't want to live anywhere but Southern California.

I tickled the idea of moving to Las Vegas at one point while I was in my 30s, over 20 years ago, but subsequent visits since then have pretty much cemented my opposition to it at this point.

My wife and I are educators. The Clark County School District is terrible, and please don't bother trying to convince me otherwise. The pay is terrible, the benefits are terrible and the overall work environment is terrible unless you happen to have a connection to someone who can get you a district office job.

You're hours from anything! If you've done Mt. Charleston and Red Rock Canyon, done Lake Mead and Valley of Fire, done Zion and Bryce, there's nothing else. There are no beaches, no wineries, no mountain towns with lakes and forests. All of those things are 4-5 hours away! Where I am now, north of LA, I can get to anything I want in less than two hours.

The medical situation in Las Vegas (and most of Nevada, for that matter) is terrible. California, for all of its issues, at least invests in its health care system through research finding at the University of California campuses, the private university investments and through a joint private-public investment in health care funding and research!

(In BLUE above): As for beaches, mountain towns with lakes and forests, those things are among the reasons we are looking at the Carson City/Reno area to move to. We miss trees (Pine/Aspen) here. Most of the area is nothing but a big/huge rock pile. We have never been into a State or National Park where there were no trees. That's the way Lake Mead National Park/Recreational Area is. We've been told that Lake Mead Recreational Area has really gone "down-hill" in previous years.

As far as medical goes here, there are just too many people living here, including VA Veterans, for medical places to really give good service.

We have heard, from local news, the problems that CCSD has had and still is.

The traffic here, from watching the traffic reports on local news, is getting worse and worse, but that sure isn't stopping people from moving here. We sure are glad we don't have to cope with it, that much anyway.

[timothyaw]

Originally Posted by BabyBoomers2

(In BLUE above): As for beaches, mountain towns with lakes and forests, those things are among the reasons we are looking at the Carson City/Reno area to move to. We miss trees (Pine/Aspen) here. Most of the area is nothing but a big/huge rock pile. We have never been into a State or National Park where there were no trees. That's the way Lake Mead National Park/Recreational Area is. We've been told that Lake Mead Recreational Area has really gone "down-hill" in previous years.

As far as medical goes here, there are just too many people living here, including VA Veterans, for medical places to really give good service.

We have heard, from local news, the problems that CCSD has had and still is.

The traffic here, from watching the traffic reports on local news, is getting worse and worse, but that sure isn't stopping people from moving here. We sure are glad we don't have to cope with it, that much anyway.

AGAIN - a LOT of us told you NOT to move here and you didn't listen. We knew you wouldn't like it here. And I don't think you'll like Reno/Tahoe either, as it's a rapidly growing area with lots of people moving in, traffic etc. Apparently you have the time and money to waste moving from one area to the next over and over and over...

[apple92680]

Originally Posted by cre8lite

ahem! pahrump is an hour away from vegas & while i know you think of us as gum on the bottom of your shoe, we do have wineries/distillers here

https://sanderswinery.com/
https://artesiancellars.com/
https://thewinedownnv.com/
https://desertcanedistillery.com/ (web page isn't working?!?!)
https://stonewise.com/

coming soon
https://thevillagerny.com/steelbound...n-the-horizon/

I really hope Pahrump can harness that and make something of itself.

[movin1]

Winters in Reno may not be nearly as cold in the future. It might be a great place for a while until everyone figures out it's the new best place.

https://www.2news.com/news/reno-is-t...b79e5fb18.html