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Originally Posted by INeedAChange
I think everyone knows deep down that things in America are slowly going to hell in a handbasket, and it's not primarily because of illegal immigration, although that is a problem. These aliens provide a convenient scapegoat for other frustrations--it's a safety valve for their detractors, to avoid addressing bigger problems. And of course talk radio is helping to egg them on.
The illegal immigrants also provide us with a lot of crime, a lot of drugs, drunk drivers, lower wages, job loss, ruined neighborhoods, ruined schools and hospitals. We do not need illegal criminals to add to whatever home grown problems we may already have.
Talk radio does not egg us on. Talk radio helps unite people that have the same view.
[quote=Kele;918763]Villareconquista's wife has filed for divorce...presumably because he couldn't keep his fly zipped and now a prominent L.A. news anchor is pregnant with a Villa La Raza baby.
He's an excellent role model for the community which helped to elect him!
Which LA anchor is it? Laura Diaz? She's too good for mayor villar
I think everyone knows deep down that things in America are slowly going to hell in a handbasket, and it's not primarily because of illegal immigration, although that is a problem. These aliens provide a convenient scapegoat for other frustrations--it's a safety valve for their detractors, to avoid addressing bigger problems. And of course talk radio is helping to egg them on.
We wouldn't need talk radio if televison provided factual and unbiased reporting.
Easy, Easy, EEEEEEEASYYYYYYY boys & girls. You are so fast to pull the trigger without taking a look at the entire picture. You pull the trigger because seeing illegal aliens bother you because, in your opinion, they are, in many ways, below you? I think that's what you're trying to say, however, I'm not so sure. In any case; I'll give you my take on it & see what you think.
I feel I understand your emotional content, however, I am going to point out something to you all & let's see how you all respond to it.
Now pay close attention, if corporate, industrial & GREEDY America would just stop demanding & insisting on getting cheap labor from these people it would all end appropriately. But NOOOOOOOOO!!!!!! You complain for something our very Country started & now they (the illegal aliens) are close enough to rub elbows with you, now it bothers you. WOW, how unpleasant & inconvenient.
I am just as American as you & probably for alot longer then you. But there was a time that Americans themselves (white America) did not see us as Americans. They saw us as rachet spics & beaners, no matter how educated we happened to be. White America labeled us as Mexican-Americans, we just wanted to be Americans but they would not let us. Now you're complaining? Surely you jest!
As a loyal American I'll say something to you all I heard not to long ago: "If the USA ever goes to war against Mexico or any other latin country, give me orders & an AK47 & I'll shoot Julio in the azz. But by that same token I'll also present you with the following: SCREAM IT OUT LOUD TO OUR VERY OWN COUNTRY, THE GOOD OLE U.S. OF A. Stop it with your demands on cheap labor which fuels your GREED. JUST STOP IT MAN. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.
"OH WHAT A WEB WE WEAVE WHEN FIRST WE LEARN TO DECEIVE" Then you want to blame the rest of the world for something we started, please folks, don't.
Therein lies your / our real problem, American GREED. Illegal aliens don't come to the USA just because folks, they come because they are aware that GREEDY Americans are everywhere to be taken advantage of. That's why they're here. At the same time, however, while they are here, they learn to play the system just like any other individual that learns to play the system & guess what; since they are the peolple that they are, that is to say; in more dire need then us, they refine their skills in this area.
Eventually, most of them come to understand that they probably will never get to become citizens so they revert to "spite". "You pretend to pay me, I pretend to work". That is a loaded comment folks.
I say again, for the record, stop American GREED & it's all over. However, if you don't stop it (American GREED that is) don't complain.
Don't think that the rest of the world is not paying attention, because they are. They continue to learn how America deals with the latin world. That to me, as an American, is embarrassing. It should be to you too.
DO THE RIGHT THING, NOW, & IT WILL ALL END. I PROMISE.
Umm...hello?
We, and by we I mean the typical American, those without the six figure incomes, are not the problem. If you want to stick it to the greedy folk, then look to big business.
I for one, am not embarrassed by my fellow Americans. We are in a fight for the sovereignty of our country which is being sacrificed on the altar of Big Business by George Bush, Ted Kennedy, John McCaine and that group of bottom feeders. They definitely embarrass me.
People like you who want to live in the past and toss out the victim card. "oh YOU white Americans used to call us "sp*c" and "beaner" make me ill. Get over it. Many of us have been the victim of racism and you don't have to be Mexican to be on the receiving end of it. I've had the teetotal crap beat out of me by illegal immigrants and their oh so pious socialist supporters for the horrendous crime of being a blonde headed white woman stuck in the wrong place at the wrong time in Los Angeles, CA. The face of racism is ignorance. It doesn't come in a particular color. That argument is soooo tired and we're all tired of hearing it.
This is not about racism. This is about whether or not we live in a sovereign nation which is governed by the rule of law. Last time I checked, the Constitution had not yet been revoked, although there are many in the Senate working on destroying our First Amendment right to freedom of speech.
Your every day, run of the mill American is NOT hiring day laborers. They are not fueling the need for slave labor. That is being done by those in big business and the average American is the one feeling the pinch. Worse off than the middle class are the poorest among us whose jobs in food service, construction, the hospitality industry, ad infinitum, have all been parcelled out to people who are in this country illegally, undercutting the wage base, and making it impossible for anyone not willing to work for slave wages to get a job.
We are doing the right thing. We storming the gates of the castle and forcing our elected representation to listen to We the People. And we will continue to do so until THEY DO THE RIGHT THING!
What is that you may ask?
SECURE OUR BORDERS! ENFORCE CURRENT LAWS ALREADY ON THE BOOKS!
Deportation through attrition. If the laws are enforced, it's only a matter of time before these people will self deport.
life1, I don't think anyone here believes a Mexican is below us, OK maybe the drug dealers but then again we would feel the same about a white drug dealer. First the Mexicans are illegal. They are demanding what they are not entitled to. They claim America belongs to them. They march in our streets screaming names and disrespecting our flag while flying their own. They have no intention of assimilating and demand we learn their language. Yes businesses have created this problem and it is up to us to drive them out.
If they want to come here, apply, follow our laws and stand in line. I want to push for the same immigration laws as Mexico. They have it right
Hello everyone & hope you are having a great day.
Citigirl, I don't think so. Aren't the Americans that hire these people just as guilty of all sorts of illegality & crimes as the illegal aliens themselves? Is one guilt better or worse then the other guilt? Does the one side break the law because they are Americans & therefore seemingly entitled & rightful in their actions in doing so & the other one is not? No, I am unanimous on this one, "none of this makes sense." However, it would appear that this is what you support. And although your focal point is clearly "illegal aliens" it does not ring true that you are also equally, if not more so, totally & completely against the ones that initiated & perpetuated this greed.
I ask you now citigirl, how do you plan to deal with corporate & industrial America that are guilty of all types of crimes against these people. I mean, will you insist & demand from our government & yourselves that these illegal types be harshly dealt with to the fullest extent of the law or will you only concentrate on kicking the Mexicans out of America?
If you will only concentrate on kicking the Mexicans out, this problem will never end. Someone has to do these jobs that no one wants to do & if there were to be no Mexicans to do them, then, America would ship in Haitians, Chinese or whatever ethnicities, & then you would have to kick them out too. And it goes on & on & on. See the problem?
Now, as far as Mexicans marching & carrying their flags, screaming vile things (I guess is what you're saying), demanding what they are not entitled to, claiming America belongs to them, etc. etc.
Firstly, Mexicans march because they have had enough of America & Americans abusing them at every turn. They feel, though they came & are here illegally, American greed forced the invitation & allowed them in at cut-rate prices & continue to do so. So, the one behavior forces the other to act in ways that we see today. Stop the one behavior & the other one will react by a natural cease & desist mechanism. However, while the one continues its greed the other will continue to feed of it. It will never end & your displeasure will have little to no effect of the matter. Most likely nothing, however, you can continue to air-out & ventilate.
As far as screaming vile things go, you would too if you were in ther shoes. No one likes to get taken again & again & not be appreciated. They see us benefitting greatly from their sweat efforts & feel you have no compassion for them at all. All we do is take & take & take & as long as you or us continue to take the benefit, with little to no effort on our parts, & care less about where that benefit is coming from, yeah, I can see why they get angry. Stop the greed & this will end.
What's wrong with them carrying their flag? Everytime these people march I always see the American flag waving along side the Mexican flag. It would be another thing if they would be burning it like alot of us Americans are fond of doing.
Entitlement? there's a term of conflictual interest. A man provides sweat effort for minimal pay of which we are the benefactors & all he asks for is to be compensated with some sort of benefit(s) & you have a problem with that? Oh yeah, I forget, he's an illegal alien that is here because of American greed. Stop the greed & this will all be over, I promise.
Claiming America belongs to them? This is a concept comment some of these folks make because they know it will "ruffle your feathers" & that's the intended target of some of these folks. To make you as uncomfortable as possible for continuing to benefit from their sweat effort with no reciprocation in return.
FYI: The other form of Taking America Back in some of the minds of these illegal aliens is to make as many children as possible & anchor themselves through their kids in this country. In doing so, claiming America for themselves. That's the way all immigrants from all countries think as far as making America theirs goes. The issue here is "how are you going to interpret this?"
Demanding you learn their language: This just isn't true & you & I & all of us know that. They could care less if you learned Spanish or not. I think what they mean is that as long as the concept of contact will be present, we may as well communicate with one another as best possible. That's only good business in general, don't you think so. I mean, I wouldn't mind knowing another language, would you?
However, in-lieu of that, a certain Dr. Samuel Betances says the following on the matter of multi-langual efficiency: "How can you tell someone that knows more that he knows less". That is illogical. It can't be done. I mean you can try it but you're the one that's going to suffer the risk further embarrassment.
The issue of assimilation is usually reserved for the children that will be born here. Although alot of them become very prosperous because they have proven that one of their biggest point of interest through living in this country is to assimilate into the American culture. This does not mean, however, that they will forget, deny or reject their own culture. That's like asking the Irish not to be Irish & not have their beer colored green or anything else colored green on St, Patricks Day, or the Italians not to go crazy when they see Rocky I, II, III etc., etc. Mexicans are just as proud as any other culture, no more or no less.
"ILLEGAL?" Depends.
Favoring Mexican Immigration Law: No one wants to live in Mexico unless you have money. Mexican corporacy & industry does not call for enticing Americans with ridiculous pay & have them come to Mexico & do their work for them. That is, not unless you want to be poor & miserable yourself. Do you still Favor Mexican Immigration Law? If you do, then there would be something obviously wrong, wouldn't there?
If America would stop its incesent greed, all Mexicans that had an interest in entering & / or living in this country would obviously "stand in line" & be here legally. There wouldn't be a choice, would there?
In the end citigirl, I love my country, America. There's nothing like Her in the world, God Bless Her & Keep Her but I am firm when I say: stop this undying American greed & have those responsible for that greed be punished to the fullest extent of the law & I assure you, IT WILL ALL END, I PROMISE.
life1, I don't think anyone here believes a Mexican is below us, OK maybe the drug dealers but then again we would feel the same about a white drug dealer. First the Mexicans are illegal. They are demanding what they are not entitled to. They claim America belongs to them. They march in our streets screaming names and disrespecting our flag while flying their own. They have no intention of assimilating and demand we learn their language. Yes businesses have created this problem and it is up to us to drive them out.
If they want to come here, apply, follow our laws and stand in line. I want to push for the same immigration laws as Mexico. They have it right
Hello everyone & hope you are having a great day.
Citigirl, I don't think so. Aren't the Americans that hire these people just as guilty of all sorts of illegality & crimes as the illegal aliens themselves? Is one guilt better or worse then the other guilt? Does the one side break the law because they are Americans & therefore seemingly entitled & rightful in their actions in doing so & the other one is not? No, I am unanimous on this one, "none of this makes sense." However, it would appear that this is what you support. And although your focal point is clearly "illegal aliens" it does not ring true that you are also equally, if not more so, totally & completely against the ones that initiated & perpetuated this greed.
I ask you now citigirl, how do you plan to deal with corporate & industrial America that are guilty of all types of crimes against these people. I mean, will you insist & demand from our government & yourselves that these illegal types be harshly dealt with to the fullest extent of the law or will you only concentrate on kicking the Mexicans out of America?
If you will only concentrate on kicking the Mexicans out, this problem will never end. Someone has to do these jobs that no one wants to do & if there were to be no Mexicans to do them, then, America would ship in Haitians, Chinese or whatever ethnicities, & then you would have to kick them out too. And it goes on & on & on. See the problem?
Now, as far as Mexicans marching & carrying their flags, screaming vile things (I guess is what you're saying), demanding what they are not entitled to, claiming America belongs to them, etc. etc.
Firstly, Mexicans march because they have had enough of America & Americans abusing them at every turn. They feel, though they came & are here illegally, American greed forced the invitation & allowed them in at cut-rate prices & continue to do so. So, the one behavior forces the other to act in ways that we see today. Stop the one behavior & the other one will react by a natural cease & desist mechanism. However, while the one continues its greed the other will continue to feed of it. It will never end & your displeasure will have little to no effect of the matter. Most likely nothing, however, you can continue to air-out & ventilate.
As far as screaming vile things go, you would too if you were in ther shoes. No one likes to get taken again & again & not be appreciated. They see us benefitting greatly from their sweat efforts & feel you have no compassion for them at all. All we do is take & take & take & as long as you or us continue to take the benefit, with little to no effort on our parts, & care less about where that benefit is coming from, yeah, I can see why they get angry. Stop the greed & this will end.
What's wrong with them carrying their flag? Everytime these people march I always see the American flag waving along side the Mexican flag. It would be another thing if they would be burning it like alot of us Americans are fond of doing.
Entitlement? there's a term of conflictual interest. A man provides sweat effort for minimal pay of which we are the benefactors & all he asks for is to be compensated with some sort of benefit(s) & you have a problem with that? Oh yeah, I forget, he's an illegal alien that is here because of American greed. Stop the greed & this will all be over, I promise.
Claiming America belongs to them? This is a concept comment some of these folks make because they know it will "ruffle your feathers" & that's the intended target of some of these folks. To make you as uncomfortable as possible for continuing to benefit from their sweat effort with no reciprocation in return.
FYI: The other form of Taking America Back in some of the minds of these illegal aliens is to make as many children as possible & anchor themselves through their kids in this country. In doing so, claiming America for themselves. That's the way all immigrants from all countries think as far as making America theirs goes. The issue here is "how are you going to interpret this?"
Demanding you learn their language: This just isn't true & you & I & all of us know that. They could care less if you learned Spanish or not. I think what they mean is that as long as the concept of contact will be present, we may as well communicate with one another as best possible. That's only good business in general, don't you think so. I mean, I wouldn't mind knowing another language, would you?
However, in-lieu of that, a certain Dr. Samuel Betances says the following on the matter of multi-langual efficiency: "How can you tell someone that knows more that he knows less". That is illogical. It can't be done. I mean you can try it but you're the one that's going to suffer the risk further embarrassment.
The issue of assimilation is usually reserved for the children that will be born here. Although alot of them become very prosperous because they have proven that one of their biggest point of interest through living in this country is to assimilate into the American culture. This does not mean, however, that they will forget, deny or reject their own culture. That's like asking the Irish not to be Irish & not have their beer colored green or anything else colored green on St, Patricks Day, or the Italians not to go crazy when they see Rocky I, II, III etc., etc. Mexicans are just as proud as any other culture, no more or no less.
"ILLEGAL?" Depends.
Favoring Mexican Immigration Law: No one wants to live in Mexico unless you have money. Mexican corporacy & industry does not call for enticing Americans with ridiculous pay & have them come to Mexico & do their work for them. That is, not unless you want to be poor & miserable yourself. Do you still Favor Mexican Immigration Law? If you do, then there would be something obviously wrong, wouldn't there?
If America would stop its incesent greed, all Mexicans that had an interest in entering & / or living in this country would obviously "stand in line" & be here legally. There wouldn't be a choice, would there?
In the end citigirl, I love my country, America. There's nothing like Her in the world, God Bless Her & Keep Her but I am firm when I say: stop this undying American greed & have those responsible for that greed be punished to the fullest extent of the law & I assure you, IT WILL ALL END, I PROMISE.
GOD BLESS AMERICA
I don't think anyone here wants those that hire illegals to go unpunished............if you go down a few threads you will see we favor them being punished harshly. I myself also would like to see them sued by the illegals that they have paid slave wages and no overtime to so these people can take whatever money awarded to them and go back to their countries and maybe have a little better life. In no way should the American companies and individuals that helped this situation become what it has be allowed to walk away from it. Major companies that participated should definitely be boycotted and maybe they will get taught a lesson that Americans don't forget who hurts them.
I'm sorry life1, but I really resent the fact that you keep using the words America and incessant greed together in the same sentence.
Get your facts straight. It is not the incessant greed of the average American that is fueling illegal immigration. The average American just wants to work (being paid an honest day's wages for an honest day's work) support their families, and live their part of the American dream that their parents worked so hard to give them.
The avarice lies not in the average American, but in the corporate world where the infatuation with the bottom line and the perpetual pursuit of the almighty dollar with absolutely no regard for anyone or anything else.
The fault also lies with our elected representation who have chosen to do their own will regardless of what the American people want. Their lust for the Hispanic vote and their willingness to cheapen American citizenship in their pursuit of corporate donations and votes despite their constituency's obvious aversion to rewarding lawbreakers makes them all the more culpable for their traitorous actions.
Aren't the Americans that hire these people just as guilty of all sorts of illegality & crimes as the illegal aliens themselves?
Yes.
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I mean, will you insist & demand from our government & yourselves that these illegal types be harshly dealt with to the fullest extent of the law?
Yes.
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Now, as far as Mexicans marching & carrying their flags, screaming vile things (I guess is what you're saying), demanding what they are not entitled to, claiming America belongs to them, etc. etc.
Firstly, Mexicans march because they have had enough of America & Americans abusing them at every turn.
Then they should go home.
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As far as screaming vile things go, you would too if you were in ther shoes. No one likes to get taken again & again & not be appreciated. They see us benefitting greatly from their sweat efforts & feel you have no compassion for them at all.
Then they should go home.
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Entitlement? there's a term of conflictual interest. A man provides sweat effort for minimal pay of which we are the benefactors & all he asks for is to be compensated with some sort of benefit(s) & you have a problem with that?
Nope, no problem with that at all. Should I also add to my insurance policy the man that broke into my home? As far as I am concerned illegal aliens have broken into my home. Anything they acquire while being here they acquired illegally and should have to forfeit when they are shipped home, not given benefits for breaking the law!
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Oh yeah, I forget, he's an illegal alien
Seems you are consistant in forgetting that.
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FYI: The other form of Taking America Back in some of the minds of these illegal aliens is to make as many children as possible & anchor themselves through their kids in this country. In doing so, claiming America for themselves.
You are right, which is why there needs to be a clarification on Amendment 14 to put an end to anchor babies.
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I mean, I wouldn't mind knowing another language, would you?
No, I wouldn't mind knowing another language. In fact, I speak some Spanish. What I DO mind though is to be EXPECTED to know any other language than ENGLISH while I am in the United States. If I travel to another country it is my responsibility to learn their language. What I DO mind is being expected to pay, as a taxpayer, for accomodations for their lack of English.
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If America would stop its incesent greed, all Mexicans that had an interest in entering & / or living in this country would obviously "stand in line" & be here legally. There wouldn't be a choice, would there?
The choice so many make is to come here, have their kid and then get on welfare. Who is the greedy one?
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In the end citigirl, I love my country, America. There's nothing like Her in the world, God Bless Her & Keep Her but I am firm when I say: stop this undying American greed & have those responsible for that greed be punished to the fullest extent of the law & I assure you, IT WILL ALL END, I PROMISE.
Nothing you have posted has shown me you love America. I have no reason to accept your assurances nor your promises.
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