The Los Angeles Homeless Containment Thread (Orange, Blythe: for rent, mortgage, loan)

[jm1982]

Originally Posted by CA4Now

^^ from your link (and posted on the Orange County homeless thread a couple of weeks ago):

"...a region where housing costs have soared and gentrification has unsettled one neighborhood after another, pushing more people into their cars and onto the streets.

On skid row, I (Steve Lopez) asked a social worker if numbers are up.

Yes, he said.

And what's the biggest reason?

"Evictions," he said.

What kind of evictions ? Eviction for not paying their rent ?

Anyone living in someone else's property should expect to have to move at anytime.

Also these evictions where rent controlled tenants are asked to move they get payouts of many thousands under the Ellis Act.

Maybe we need to encourage people to move to other places that are more affordable. Central California is one or out of state .
Nobody has a right to live in L.A for below market rent . It's not in the constitution .

[CA4Now]

Originally Posted by jm1982

What kind of evictions ? Eviction for not paying their rent ?

It sounds like it, from reading the article. And even if they're eligible for a housing voucher, there aren't enough available, apparently. Even for veterans.

...qualifying for housing takes months, and Los Angeles has a severe shortage of apartment units for poor people; 500 homeless veterans have vouchers but no place to cash them in, authorities said.

In 2006, Police Chief William J. Bratton unleashed his "broken windows" campaign, issuing thousands of tickets to homeless people for minor offenses like jaywalking and throwing out cigarette butts. The streets cleared, but homeless people were arrested for unpaid tickets and bounced from jail back to skid row.

The county adopted a $100-million homelessness plan to build five regional homeless shelters, but a year later shelved it in the face of protests.

Federal courts repeatedly upheld civil rights challenges to the city's cracking down on homeless people without providing shelter space.

In 2006, the city settled litigation by signing the Jones agreement, which allowed homeless people to sleep overnight on sidewalks. The agreement set the stage for today's encampment explosion.

"We are dealing with historical consequences of bad decisions made 10 years ago to guarantee a right to sidewalks instead of a right to shelter," said Westside Councilman Mike Bonin.

L.A.'s homelessness surged 75% in six years. Here's why the crisis has been decades in the making

[SportyandMisty]

Originally Posted by CALGUY

Will someone explain to me what is wrong with building lagre camps out in the desert to house these people?
These camps would have full time staff to attend to all the homeless people's needs.

There would be medical facilities, mental health counseling, Sources for education, job counseling. and most of all, a roof over their head.

The money is there, it was voted on, so instead of the money going into politicians pockets, let's use it as it was designed to do.
This business of moving them from one riverbed location to another one, has got to stop.


Bob.

Let's outsource it to Mexico. Build the camps near Mexico City.

[SportyandMisty]

Originally Posted by CA4Now

One of the biggest reasons the homeless rate has spiked in the past two years is: EVICTIONS.

The real issue is tenants failing to pay the rent on time.

[jm1982]

Originally Posted by SportyandMisty

The real issue is tenants failing to pay the rent on time.

But but

"Every Angeleno deserves safe housing that they can afford – it is a basic human right"

Guess who said that?

[CA4Now]

Originally Posted by SportyandMisty

The real issue is tenants failing to pay the rent on time.

The single biggest cause of homelessness today is loss of tenancy – in other words, an eviction. An increasing number of these are “no-fault evictions” – meaning the landlord need not give any reason why they are turfing someone out of their home.

How eviction leads to homelessness: ‘My youngest child doesn’t know what a home is’:
https://www.theguardian.com/inequali...what-a-home-is

As rents have skyrocketed, so have evictions. One in eight poor renting families couldn’t pay all their rent in 2013, and a similar number worried they would be evicted soon, according to the AHS (American Housing Survey

And this data was from 2013...when the housing market was just starting to recover after hitting its low. One can only imagine what the percentage of those who can't pay their rent is now.

https://www.deseretnews.com/article/...f-poverty.html

[jm1982]

Originally Posted by CA4Now

The single biggest cause of homelessness today is loss of tenancy – in other words, an eviction. An increasing number of these are “no-fault evictions” – meaning the landlord need not give any reason why they are turfing someone out of their home.

How eviction leads to homelessness: ‘My youngest child doesn’t know what a home is’:
https://www.theguardian.com/inequali...what-a-home-is

As rents have skyrocketed, so have evictions. One in eight poor renting families couldn’t pay all their rent in 2013, and a similar number worried they would be evicted soon, according to the AHS (American Housing Survey

And this data was from 2013...when the housing market was just starting to recover after hitting its low. One can only imagine what the percentage of those who can't pay their rent is now.

https://www.deseretnews.com/article/...f-poverty.html

And they get huge payouts when they get evicted .
More then enough to relocate to a more affordable place/city .


"The following chart is relevant until June 30, 2015:

Tenants Tenants with Less Than Three Years Tenants with More Than Three Years Income Below 80% of Area Median Income Tenants Renting in Mom & Pop Properties
Eligible Tenant $7,700 $10,200 $10,200 $7,450
Qualified Tenant $16,350 $19,300 $19,300 $15,000
Relocation assistance under the Los Angeles Rent Stabilization Ordinance would be part of an eviction and required the Los Angeles Housing Department to be involved. If you have any questions regarding the process, please contact Attorney Anthony Marinaccio at 818-839-5220 to set up a consultation."

How Much Relocation Assistance is Required under the Los Angeles Rent Stabilization Ordinance? - Marinaccio Law

[CA4Now]

Originally Posted by jm1982

And they get huge payouts when they get evicted

Your link states that evicted tenants get relocation assistance only under certain circumstances.

Los Angeles landlords are required to pay relocation assistance when they are evicting a tenant for the following most relevant reasons:

1. Eviction for occupancy of the unit by landlord, landlord’s spouse, grandchild, child, parents, grandparents, or resident manager.
2. Eviction under the Ellis Act. (going out of the rental business)
3. Eviction due to primary renovation of the unit.
4. Eviction pursuant to a government order’s Notice to Vacate.

[jm1982]

Originally Posted by CA4Now

Your link states that evicted tenants get relocation assistance only under certain circumstances.

Los Angeles landlords are required to pay relocation assistance when they are evicting a tenant for the following most relevant reasons:

1. Eviction for occupancy of the unit by landlord, landlord’s spouse, grandchild, child, parents, grandparents, or resident manager.
2. Eviction under the Ellis Act. (going out of the rental business)
3. Eviction due to primary renovation of the unit.
4. Eviction pursuant to a government order’s Notice to Vacate.

And that is going to cover most evictions that are not the tenant's fault.

If the tenants didn't pay rent or did something else to violate the lease do you think the landlord should have to pay that tenant relocation assistance?

Keep in mind in most other places these tenants in these circumstances don't have the right to these huge 'relocation' sums.

These tenants are getting this huge sums and still suing landlords! It's ridiculous.

You read some of the articles and the people say , "I expected to live there for 1/2 market rent until I died" .. insanity and unrealistic.

Not sure where people get this entitlement mentality from.

[Finper]

Originally Posted by SportyandMisty

Let's outsource it to Mexico. Build the camps near Mexico City.

Mexico wouldn't let them across the border probably