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Taliban forces have reportedly captured around 100 U.S.-made Humvees and MaxxPro Mine Resistant Ambush Protected vehicles (MRAPs) as well as U.S. ScanEagle drones left behind and the Kunduz Airport.
The Taliban captured Kunduz Airport on Wednesday and on Thursday, German journalist Julian Röpcke tweeted, “The #Taliban not only seized appr. a hundred US humvees and (MaxxPro) MRAPs at Kunduz airport, but also several US ScanEagle drones. Billions of US tax payer $ going to Islamist extremists, thanks to the administration’s hasty withdrawal without a peace deal or follow up mission.
It’s seems Al Jazeera has the most amount of recent data to actually understand what is going on in Afghanistan. The American networks have fancy headlines but the articles are light on depth.
Also its too early to drag all the pundits on to fill the space that is absent of news on Afghanistan. They do this during crises to fill the empty space.
We can dance around the issue of why Afghanistan fell so quickly, but the bottom line is that the American political, military and intelligence leadership failed the American people. It will only be a matter of time until this comes back to haunt us… In a huge way.
Honestly, I have very little confidence in today’s senior military leadership since they’re more concerned with politics, social re-engineering and WOKE-ISM than maintaining an effective war fighting force.
In the end, our military forces will be demoralized for a period of time and our enemies will feel emboldened to openly challenged the United States… In combat.
We can dance around the issue of why Afghanistan fell so quickly, but the bottom line is that the American political, military and intelligence leadership failed the American people. It will only be a matter of time until this comes back to haunt us… In a huge way.
Honestly, I have very little confidence in today’s senior military leadership since they’re more concerned with politics, social re-engineering and WOKE-ISM than maintaining an effective war fighting force.
In the end, our military forces will be demoralized for a period of time and our enemies will feel emboldened to openly challenged the United States… In combat.
Lets put the blame directly where it belongs - this was a political move - even now the president still is holding to this decision. This was a purely political failure - the intelligence community warned of this and the military wanted to keep about 4000 troops to prevent this from occurring. Honestly I have very little confidence that the media will will lay the blame where it belongs - with the political leaders.
I am not that worried about the troops being demoralized or enemies being emboldened - they both recognize that the issue is at the top, not with the capability or resolve of the troops.
I hope not. Sorry for all of those people but no we should not leave anyone there unless they want us to set up a base there.
Unless things have changed, and I don't think they have, the main thing Afghanis want from any foreign country is for them to leave.
The message from Biden to the Taliban should be that we don't care what they do in their own country, but that any attempt to harbor terrorism or people that will hurt the US will result in retaliation.
Now all our military equipment, that you and i paid for, is left there for the bad guys.
Most of that military equipment you see, small arms, aircraft, etc is ANA equipment. Still our tax dollars.
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From everything I've seen, US forces left behind some vehicles and small arms for the Afghan Army, but no aircraft or big weapons.
We supplied all the weapons/most of the vehicles for the ANA. All the 1151s you see are the old ragged out trucks that we could no longer use but were too expensive to fly home.
Folks crowding C-17s trying to taxi, folks hanging on the outside of C-17s and then falling off while in flight, AH-64s doing crowd control(non lethal), etc.
I have to wonder how many Afghani police, military, and officials were Taliban or at least were of similar beliefs as the Taliban? Did the Taliban receive unofficial support from neighboring countries’ military? The boots on the ground didn’t fail. The politicians, intelligence agencies, and military leaders failed.
You seem to think Biden is not to blame - CENTCOM most assuredly briefed that it was a bad policy and probably briefed Biden directly, no chance to be "whitewashed" or not properly "briefed up the chain" that is like 2 people, both appointed by Biden.
Biden point blank lied when he said "that the Taliban was not capable of taking Afghanistan" - that would ignore the capabilities. As of now the story is very reminiscent of the fall of Saigon
I agree, why does that person still have a job? Biden has no one to blame but himself - it was woke pacifist ideals that drove the pullout - not the military.
I didn’t mean to imply that Biden isn’t culpable. He is absolutely culpable. When you are the President, and it goes bad, it’s completely on you. Him trying to blame Trump is so disingenuous.
But not only Biden, but what about Austin? I’ve heard reports that he did nothing but throw the Afghan Army under the bus and blame them for this whole debacle. Why didn’t he know they weren’t ready to hold their own country?
Lastly, where is Milley during this whole thing? Other than holding water for Biden?
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Where to get solid news on fall of Afghanistan?
