USS George Washington suicides

[Dwatted Wabbit]

Originally Posted by victimofGM

https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/18/polit...ion/index.html
https://www.navytimes.com/news/your-...stemic-issues/
https://www.military.com/daily-news/...ts-coming.html

The last link has a great bit of details the other two are sorely lacking. The Navy has had issues with enlisted quarters and substandard conditions but this is on a whole other level. I seriously doubt any senior leaders were required to live on the carrier or in toxic barracks. 3 suicides in one week is a huge red flag that there’s something wrong with the command and yet the Master Chief of the Navy basically told them “at least your not in a foxhole” so get use to it.

No excuse for leaving the lower ranks in a renovation disaster for SIX YEARS??!! Some people need to get fired, if we can't turn around even a big ship like this in 2-3 years then something is rotten in Denmark.

You can probably build a new carrier in less time than this.

[Driver 47]

The quality of personnel has come down quite sharply in the last forty years. I was a Seabee so I can't comment on shipboard life, but my first duty station was Diego Garcia. A tiny rock where we lived in tents! My next duty station was NAS Adak. In the Aleutian Islands! At least we were indoors with flush toilets and heated showers. My last duty station was a battalion where I got sent on a detail right back to Adak. I recall getting bounced out of bed by earthquakes when Mt. Siska erupted (fairly regularly too ) Kids these days. Buncha babies.

[webster]

The Navy is top heavy. The Navy has more admirals now than they did in WW2 and yet it's 1/9th the size. (The last data I can find the USN has 293 admirals now compared with 256 in WW2.). That's almost one admiral per ship; when adding reserve admirals, it is one admiral per ship.

Whether its the tragic suicides of the sailors or the fire on the USS Bonhomie Richard, the leadership of the USN is failing.

[TamaraSavannah]

Originally Posted by Dwatted Wabbit

No excuse for leaving the lower ranks in a renovation disaster for SIX YEARS??!! Some people need to get fired, if we can't turn around even a big ship like this in 2-3 years then something is rotten in Denmark.

You can probably build a new carrier in less time than this.

USS America CV 66, laid down 1 January 1961, commissioned 23 January 1965 (picked because we were decently into building super carriers then)

USS Gerald R. Ford CVN-78, laid down 14 Nov 2009, commissioned 22 July 2017 (from navsource)

So, I would say, No, you can't build a new carrier in 2-3 years.........and hence, the matter may be more complicated than we can guess.