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Old 02-24-2023, 07:45 AM
 
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Vinyl chloride monomer is a gas at atmospheric pressure, so you're not going to get a "raindrop of the stuff". Solubility is 2.7 grams per liter, so a big raindrop with 0.3ml of water might contain 0.8mcg if it traveled through a cloud of the stuff. The OSHA limit is 1ppm for 8 hours, which isn't even the same unit. Most of the monomer was burned at the site, and furthermore it degrades in the atmosphere with a half-life of 1.5 days.

Lots of toxic things to worry about in NJ -- aromatic compounds, hexavalent chromium, and even vinyl chloride from local sources. Not this, though.
Vinyl Chloride when it was burned turned into many various other substances in the atmosphere, including phosgene. The NOAA tracking of the burn, shows it actually came over the state twice. It came through the state and moved south as far as DC, and then back up north and fell onto the state with last weeks rainstorm. Its a bit silly, to say we shouldn't be concerned with this, after there's videos and peoples cars being covered by chemical substance fallout from the rain. What is the exposure, where has fallen, are reservoirs and farm land being tested for this? These are very valid questions we should be asking our state government, if we are not, they are not going to take the time to look into it.

NJ does have toxic things to worry about, but its been remediated and quarantined over the past century. We had to learn the hard way, as cancer cluster develop after years of exposure and when things happen, its usually too little too late.

I can say with absolute certainty, and its been more transparent than ever that the government does not have our best interests involved for the environment. The Jersey shore is becoming a cesspool for dead marine life, including dolphins and whales washing up daily onto our beaches, as the death mill program moves forward.
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Old 02-24-2023, 09:11 PM
 
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Vinyl Chloride when it was burned turned into many various other substances in the atmosphere, including phosgene.
Yes, I mentioned phosgene. It's not a big problem, because for every molecule of phosgene created, you get 675 of HCl, so the HCl will kill you quicker. Phosgene reacts with water to produce more HCl, so it's not a persistent water pollutant; you don't get rain containing phosgene, you just get slightly more acidic rain.
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