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Old 09-24-2023, 10:29 AM
 
Location: NJ & NV
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Another pure case of,,,dint dooo nuffffin
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Old 09-24-2023, 10:33 AM
 
Location: Chandler, AZ
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Not to worry, his gerrymandered district will ensure another menendez clone.



This is a seat in the US Senate - no gerrymandering can possibly be involved. It's a state-wide election.
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Old 09-24-2023, 12:28 PM
 
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This is a seat in the US Senate - no gerrymandering can possibly be involved. It's a state-wide election.
Yup!
I corrected him a couple of years ago, regarding his glaring failure to comprehend the actual meaning of Gerrymandering, and where it can be done, but--of course--he never responded to my correction. Obviously, he doesn't understand that US Senators are elected on a statewide level.
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Old 09-24-2023, 05:03 PM
 
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Basically yes; seniority in senate as in many other areas does have perks.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Senior...nior%20senator.

In past when members of Congress served shorter terms seniority in House or senate may not have made a huge difference. Now that senators and representatives routinely remain in office for decades seniority does matter.

It is rare (though possible) that newly elected senators or representatives get appointed to plumb committees much less preside as chairmen.

As for rest of it much depends upon who retires or dies while in office basically.

NYS has two senators, but you rarely hear about Gillibrand, OTOH Schumer is everywhere.


Richard Shelby did "retire" from senate, Katie Britt won seat to replace him. Tuberville may now be "senior" senator from Alabama but he has not racked up years in office that lead to plum committee assignments or chairmanships. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tommy_Tuberville
I understand all that, I meant seniority between two senators from the same state, not general seniority in the Senate.

Schumer is Majority Leader so is obviously more influential than Gillibrand.

But, from that list you linked, Joe Manchin is 34 on the list, but his willingness to break from Biden and the Left has made him more influential than Bob Casey, number 22 on the list. The Democrats had to revise their bills to ensure that got support from the likes of Manchin and Sinema.

They ultimately all get 1 vote out of 100.

I don't know how strong Menendez' support is in the state. Booker won by better margins last time but he ran in a Presidential year. Perhaps because he also ran for President, but he seems more popular of the two.

Of the other US senators, Fetterman has called on Menendez to resign. Booker, Schumer, and Sanders, Warren, some of the popular known D Senators have been silent.
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Old 09-24-2023, 05:14 PM
 
Location: Port Charlotte FL
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I hope they both do jail time..
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Old 09-24-2023, 06:13 PM
 
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If Andy Kim wins the NJ Democratic primary, he will likely have to debate the Republican challenger.

It won't be cakewalk like Cory Booker v. Rik Mehta, the latter who got no support from his Party, and many don't remember. Booker ran for President first, then just filed for re-election without much effort and didn't have to debate his challenger.

This time Democrats are in defense in Ohio, Montana, WV and Arizona. The Republican Party can on offense in Democratic states and invest in candidates there.
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Old 09-24-2023, 06:55 PM
 
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Here you go again, changing the narrative , just stop it.
It's his job to keep spitting out the mindless, no-thought, memes.
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Old 09-24-2023, 06:56 PM
 
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...and of course, he pulled the race card.
Oompa Loompas are a race?
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Old 09-24-2023, 11:32 PM
 
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I understand all that, I meant seniority between two senators from the same state, not general seniority in the Senate.

Schumer is Majority Leader so is obviously more influential than Gillibrand.

But, from that list you linked, Joe Manchin is 34 on the list, but his willingness to break from Biden and the Left has made him more influential than Bob Casey, number 22 on the list. The Democrats had to revise their bills to ensure that got support from the likes of Manchin and Sinema.

They ultimately all get 1 vote out of 100.

I don't know how strong Menendez' support is in the state. Booker won by better margins last time but he ran in a Presidential year. Perhaps because he also ran for President, but he seems more popular of the two.

Of the other US senators, Fetterman has called on Menendez to resign. Booker, Schumer, and Sanders, Warren, some of the popular known D Senators have been silent.
Corey Booker ticks quite a few boxes for progressive liberal democrats.


Graduate of Yale and Oxford; smooth, slick and high toned Corey Booker is one of those AAs that white liberals and progressives long have championed and or whatever.

It's never easy to unseat an incumbent politician, worse Booker's last election was during height of covid-panic where elections were largely conducted by mail in ballots. In terms of name recognition alone Booker had Rik Mehta beat.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cory_Booker

For 2014 senate election Booker didn't have any serious primary competition from within his own party. The GOP nominee, Jeff Bell, was never going to unseat by then incumbent Booker.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_U..._in_New_Jersey
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Old 09-24-2023, 11:42 PM
 
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I understand all that, I meant seniority between two senators from the same state, not general seniority in the Senate.

Schumer is Majority Leader so is obviously more influential than Gillibrand.

But, from that list you linked, Joe Manchin is 34 on the list, but his willingness to break from Biden and the Left has made him more influential than Bob Casey, number 22 on the list. The Democrats had to revise their bills to ensure that got support from the likes of Manchin and Sinema.

They ultimately all get 1 vote out of 100.

I don't know how strong Menendez' support is in the state. Booker won by better margins last time but he ran in a Presidential year. Perhaps because he also ran for President, but he seems more popular of the two.

Of the other US senators, Fetterman has called on Menendez to resign. Booker, Schumer, and Sanders, Warren, some of the popular known D Senators have been silent.
Menendez is known to be a nasty SOB towards people he believes have betrayed or otherwise slighted him. Holding a grudge does not even begin to cover it apparently.

Given fact Menendez has been down this road before and not only survived but won subsequent reelection by huge margin some within DNC are likely reserving opinion for time being. Waiting things out if you will to see what happens with or at trial and so forth.

If this case goes to trail it's not likely to get going in earnest until well into new year, likely sometime in spring or later. That of course goes up against primary and general election season. By that time Schumer, Booker and others who have held their tongues (if they still are) will have to s**t or get off the pot.
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