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No. A single train from the UES to midtown west will be very useful. I'm hoping that even if / after the drive it all the way down to Hanover Square, they keep a line crossing over to the west side.
In the end, I think a line crossing west will be more useful / popular than the line going straight down the east side.
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Originally Posted by livingsinglenyc
Once it makes it to 125th them i can view it as useable.
Cause what it is right now it just a waste.
86th street on the Lexington Avenue Line is the 10th busiest station in the system and 77th street is the 28th busiest. The first phase man not make an astronomical difference, but I wouldn't call it a waste.
If you want to call something a waste look at 34-Hudson yards lol.
86th street on the Lexington Avenue Line is the 10th busiest station in the system and 77th street is the 28th busiest. The first phase man not make an astronomical difference, but I wouldn't call it a waste.
If you want to call something a waste look at 34-Hudson yards lol.
Nah bruh. Hudson Yards is about to be packed with people once all those buildings are constructed. Gotta be like 20 buildings under construction right now. It's gonna be real nice
Kind of is, because the Upper East side is pretty much the only dying neighborhood in Manhattan (falling rents & decrease in population). Then again, people will argue that this is because of the transportation problem and that SAS will fix what's wrong
I wouldn't characterize the UES as dying. It might not be as desirable as other parts of the city but it's still a very desirable neighborhood for families.
Someone should tell that to the developers who are putting up high rises like weeds.
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Kind of is, because the Upper East side is pretty much the only dying neighborhood in Manhattan (falling rents & decrease in population). Then again, people will argue that this is because of the transportation problem and that SAS will fix what's wrong
Once it makes it to 125th them i can view it as useable.
Cause what it is right now it just a waste.
It's already usable to the people who live on UES and even people who live within walking distance in East Harlem (the dividing line is 96th Street). That why UES and East Harlem residents can take one train to Midtown West without transferring. Or have an alternate train to go to Union Square or Canal Street.
One remembers the late economist Dick Netzer arguing for a Second Avenue Light Rail, as a cost-cutting alternative to the subway! This was before the Select Bus Service was born!
Now, yes, Netzer was a fiscal conservative, and yes, he was part of the Municipal Assistance Corporation in the late 70s, a board charged with getting New York out of the Fiscal Crisis!
86th street on the Lexington Avenue Line is the 10th busiest station in the system and 77th street is the 28th busiest. The first phase man not make an astronomical difference, but I wouldn't call it a waste.
If you want to call something a waste look at 34-Hudson yards lol.
It makes a lot more sense for them to have built that out first rather than wait until it got way more expensive and difficult to build once all those highrises in place. It's one of the perhaps rare examples of the city actually coordinating itself to do something right, or right-ish.
Well, for some reason, these rapid transit expansion costs are usually much more expensive per mile in the US than in other developed countries, so it's not looking like we'd get anything quite as grand until that gets figured out.
Anyhow, there are a handful of holy grail projects that would much improve transit in NYC. I think the greatest of them is interoperable LIRR/Metro-North/NJT Rail lines that go through-running in the terminals rather than idling and going back, building a few infill stations for them in dense urban areas, getting a joint fare tap card for the subway and these systems, expanding frequencies especially during off-peak and making a tunnel going from the Grand Central terminus down through downtown Manhattan and then under and over to Atlantic Terminal in Brooklyn.
Oh, and maybe the Triboro RX.
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