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Old 10-23-2008, 06:59 AM
 
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^ Hillside brought that up because they are in our MSA. NOKY was made up of old dense German & Italian neighborhoods that shouldn't be left off an aerial map. I'm sorry then! lol ... You're on UrbanOhio, aren't you?
my sentiments exactly.
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Old 10-23-2008, 10:01 AM
 
Location: cleveland
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cinci-rise, you totally ignored my questions in post 22. i was asking because, the csa and msa seems to be listed as one in the same .? you seem to be a good reference on cinci and thought you might know.. because even greater cleveland and N.E.Ohio can be defined in many ways.. read this and you will see what i mean...fyi - im not a cinci hater, i happen to think its an awsome metro ! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_Cleveland
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Old 10-23-2008, 11:50 AM
 
Location: Cortland, Ohio
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^ Hillside brought that up because they are in our MSA. NOKY was made up of old dense German & Italian neighborhoods that shouldn't be left off an aerial map. I'm sorry then! lol ... You're on UrbanOhio, aren't you?
Yes i'm on UO. Anyway, I'm not trying to argue what is included in the Cleveland metro and what isn't. Someone said something about northeast Ohio being 4.5 million people or so. I live in northeast Ohio. I understand that the Youngstown/Warren area isn't part of the Cleveland metro. I'm just saying that if you include parts of kentucky and indiana in SW Ohio you should be including Mercer Co, Pa (and Lawrence, if we're talking CSA) in Northeast Ohio. Of course i think that's crazy, but i think it's also crazy if you include part of any state, other than ohio, in a region of Ohio!
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Old 10-23-2008, 12:06 PM
 
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Yes i'm on UO. Anyway, I'm not trying to argue what is included in the Cleveland metro and what isn't. Someone said something about northeast Ohio being 4.5 million people or so. I live in northeast Ohio. I understand that the Youngstown/Warren area isn't part of the Cleveland metro. I'm just saying that if you include parts of kentucky and indiana in SW Ohio you should be including Mercer Co, Pa (and Lawrence, if we're talking CSA) in Northeast Ohio. Of course i think that's crazy, but i think it's also crazy if you include part of any state, other than ohio, in a region of Ohio!
Putting NOKY and SEIN in Cincinnati's MSA makes perfect since, hell, the I275 loop even goes through all 3 states. Western Greater Cincy goes to the IN border and NOKY is right in front of Downtown Cincy. The same couldn't be said for Cleveland.

1water, I see. My apologies.
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Old 10-23-2008, 12:25 PM
 
Location: Cortland, Ohio
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Putting NOKY and SEIN in Cincinnati's MSA makes perfect since, hell, the I275 loop even goes through all 3 states. Western Greater Cincy goes to the IN border and NOKY is right in front of Downtown Cincy. The same couldn't be said for Cleveland.

1water, I see. My apologies.
I'm not arguing MSA's here. I was just talking SE Ohio and NE Ohio.
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Old 10-23-2008, 10:39 PM
 
Location: Cleveland
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Cincy-rise, what is wrong with you lately?

Seriously, youve been attacking people left and right for the past week or so for no real reason. Youve been bashing cities, and starting arguments that dont even make sense.

THIS is exactly the reason why I said this thread you made ( https://www.city-data.com/forum/ohio/...need-wake.html ) was a joke, and I was right.
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Old 10-24-2008, 07:17 AM
 
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Cincy-rise, what is wrong with you lately?

Seriously, youve been attacking people left and right for the past week or so for no real reason. Youve been bashing cities, and starting arguments that dont even make sense.

THIS is exactly the reason why I said this thread you made ( https://www.city-data.com/forum/ohio/...need-wake.html ) was a joke, and I was right.
Can you post a single quote where I "bashed" a city ... I'll be waiting for a response.
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Old 10-24-2008, 09:46 AM
 
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how did this go from being about the opportunities and freedoms of a metro for african-americans to a heated debate about MSA and CSA, and now to bashing? i know, i know, i contributed, but still guys...
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Old 10-25-2008, 02:08 AM
 
Location: Cleveland
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Can you post a single quote where I "bashed" a city ... I'll be waiting for a response.
Are you serious?

Youve gone out of your way for the past week to bash Cleveland, and other cities. I hear another person (aquila I think) saying that you bash places in Kentucky all the time. Pretty much anywhere but Cincinnati. You bring out the smallest errors in posts and use them against places. It seems like you hate Cleveland and put it down at every oportunity, probably because of your own insecurities. You wont accept the truth.

But, Lets not try to change the subject like it looks like your trying to do, and remember what you did. Youve been attacking people for the past week and starting huge arguments wherever you go. You try to give the impression that your this know-it-all and know everything about cities and stats and all of it and nobody else does, dont believe me look back at this thread. I already know all of that stuff, as I said Ive been studying urban areas in every category and aspect, firsthand and other, extensively for over 6 years now. (I was planning on a career in it, but not all of us are priviledged and can afford to go to college). Not to sound condescending, I dont know about you, but I know what Im talking about when it comes to this stuff, much more than the average person who looks up a couple definitions and stats and thinks theyre an expert.

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Old 10-25-2008, 09:35 AM
 
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Are you serious?

Youve gone out of your way for the past week to bash Cleveland, and other cities. I hear another person (aquila I think) saying that you bash places in Kentucky all the time. Pretty much anywhere but Cincinnati. You bring out the smallest errors in posts and use them against places. It seems like you hate Cleveland and put it down at every oportunity, probably because of your own insecurities. You wont accept the truth.

But, Lets not try to change the subject like it looks like your trying to do, and remember what you did. Youve been attacking people for the past week and starting huge arguments wherever you go. You try to give the impression that your this know-it-all and know everything about cities and stats and all of it and nobody else does, dont believe me look back at this thread. I already know all of that stuff, as I said Ive been studying urban areas in every category and aspect, firsthand and other, extensively for over 6 years now. (I was planning on a career in it, but not all of us are priviledged and can afford to go to college). Not to sound condescending, I dont know about you, but I know what Im talking about when it comes to this stuff, much more than the average person who looks up a couple definitions and stats and thinks theyre an expert.

AGAIN ... Cle440, post a quote where I bashed a city or admit you are wrong and an apology should follow.
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