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Old 04-10-2020, 11:28 AM
 
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Just because God has a plan does not mean that plan will come to pass, as God gave the earth to man, and gave man promises to help man ... If man ignore God then God plan could fail, still God has limits and if these limits are cross them God could shake up the earth to get back were the plan of God would work better ..... See God has a plan for every one who got sent to hell, and that was salvation to be with God, but most of these people ignored God and rejected the plan of God .......
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Old 04-10-2020, 01:06 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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Just because God has a plan does not mean that plan will come to pass, as God gave the earth to man, and gave man promises to help man ... If man ignore God then God plan could fail, still God has limits and if these limits are cross them God could shake up the earth to get back were the plan of God would work better ..... See God has a plan for every one who got sent to hell, and that was salvation to be with God, but most of these people ignored God and rejected the plan of God .......
So he's not all powerful. Okay...understood.

Really what you're doing is making excuses.
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Old 04-10-2020, 01:23 PM
 
Location: Northern Maine
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If God has a plan, then why would you pray for anything?

To be included in that plan?
Theres a saying "Careful what you pray for".

I've been praying for a sports car, my concept of God is slow as treacle.
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Old 04-10-2020, 01:26 PM
 
Location: Northern Maine
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Never understood this one. If the all powerful God already has a plan for you then what is the point of praying to him or praying for someone else?

Jeremiah 29:11 ESV
For I know the plans I have for you, declares the Lord, plans for welfare and not for evil, to give you a future and a hope.

Proverbs 16:3-4 ESV
Commit your work to the Lord, and your plans will be established. The Lord has made everything for its purpose, even the wicked for the day of trouble.

Psalm 33:11 ESV
The counsel of the Lord stands forever, the plans of his heart to all generations.

Proverbs 3:5-6
“Trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding; in all your ways submit to him, and he will make your paths straight.”
God's plan for me is to be happy , joyous and free.

Praying helps me get out of my own way so the plan can play out.
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Old 04-10-2020, 03:13 PM
 
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God's plan for me is to be happy , joyous and free.
. You need an invisible God to be happy in this life?
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Praying helps me get out of my own way so the plan can play out.
Aka Meditation and setting goals in your mind. Yeah I do that do without a supernatural being that answers prayers.
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Old 04-10-2020, 03:17 PM
 
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Theres a saying "Careful what you pray for".

I've been praying for a sports car, my concept of God is slow as treacle.
I have goals for a sports car too but it will happen because I set goals in my mind and worked hard to achieve those goals. It will have nothing to do with an invisible God that intervenes with human affairs.
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Old 04-10-2020, 03:25 PM
 
Location: Free State of Texas
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Because God’s plan is general and pursuant to my willingness to cooperate.
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Old 04-10-2020, 05:22 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma
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If God has a plan, then why would you pray for anything?

To be included in that plan?
That sounds good other than the fact those of us NOT included in any plans go about screwing up God's plan for all you guys with our free will.
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Old 04-10-2020, 05:36 PM
 
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Pray (Noun) To beg
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Old 04-10-2020, 05:42 PM
 
Location: Free State of Texas
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Pray (Noun) To beg
Noun? Hmmm...

Pray (verb): to address God with adoration, confession, supplication, or thanksgiving.
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