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To suggest he failed, you need to prove the intent. You've completely misrepresented the context of all of those.
Of course he did. Your statement that he was "unable to destroy him" is simply uninformed. Or perhaps intentionally wrong. I can't say. But God is able to destroy him and will destroy him. In time.
Again. You have to prove he planned otherwise, or that his intent was not that.
Again...the fact that he has CHOSEN not to doesn't mean he failed. He is not subject to you.
So he intended for destruction to kill his followers? Why would he be sorry about creating man kind if he is all powerful? If you are all knowing you wouldn't create mankind then regret it later. He intended to create mankind with sinful nature?
If an all powerful and all loving God chooses to sit back and allow the devil to continue to exist and destroy his followers, isn’t God making the devil his agent?
Why 6 days? Why not instantaneous?
It means the God of the Bible does not exist. If the God of the Bible were so convincing of his existence we would have majority believers. What we have here is nothing more than blind faith. You would think if faith were worth anything he would reach out to us through reason.
Based on your posts, I do think you believe in the existence of the God of the Bible, but you’ve chosen to reject Him based on your assessment of His character.
(You couldn’t be as upset as you are at a being you don’t think exists.)
You are not an atheist. You are a deist who believes in more God/gods than I do!
-Created an imperfect world with earthquakes, floods, diseases etc that his own followers die and suffer from
-Created mankind then he said he was sorry he created them.
-Created humans with sinful nature
-Created the devil but unable to destroy him
-Had to flood the earth and start all over
-Took six days to create everything when he could have just spoken everything into existence at once.
-Created innocent children with terminal illnesses
-Unable to show himself to humans. He remains "invisible", If Thomas required proof and got it why can't I get proof he exists?
That's all I can think of for now. I'm sure there are many other ways this ALL POWERFUL, ALL LOVING, ALL KNOWING God has failed in many ways.
The mistake here, right from the get-go...is to assess the Bible literally...and not as the metaphorical and allegorical work that it is.
But, IF you are to assess it literally...that is covered too:
Isaiah 55:8-9
8 “For my thoughts are not your thoughts,
neither are your ways my ways,
declares the Lord.
9 “As the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways
and my thoughts than your thoughts.
-Created an imperfect world with earthquakes, floods, diseases etc that his own followers die and suffer from
-Created mankind then he said he was sorry he created them.
-Created humans with sinful nature
-Created the devil but unable to destroy him
-Had to flood the earth and start all over
-Took six days to create everything when he could have just spoken everything into existence at once.
-Created innocent children with terminal illnesses
-Unable to show himself to humans. He remains "invisible", If Thomas required proof and got it why can't I get proof he exists?
That's all I can think of for now. I'm sure there are many other ways this ALL POWERFUL, ALL LOVING, ALL KNOWING God has failed in many ways.
Your thread titles read like cries for help. It like watching a bad break-up and you’re leaving angry, drunk, late night messages on God’s answering machine. If you’re hoping He might take you back, you’re going about it all the wrong way.
It means the God of the Bible does not exist. If the God of the Bible were so convincing of his existence we would have majority believers. What we have here is nothing more than blind faith. You would think if faith were worth anything he would reach out to us through reason.
Actually no, we wouldn't have majority believers. One can only believe something exists when it actually doesn't or isn't knowable if it does ie there is no evidence or indication that it might exist. If it were known that God exists then ..... well, everyone would simply know it. Kinda like the sun and moon. No one believes the sun and moon exists - we know it. Something as significant and powerful as a God that created the whole universe would be pretty obvious - like the sun.
The mistake here, right from the get-go...is to assess the Bible literally...and not as the metaphorical and allegorical work that it is.
But, IF you are to assess it literally...that is covered too:
Isaiah 55:8-9
8 “For my thoughts are not your thoughts,
neither are your ways my ways,
declares the Lord.
9 “As the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways
and my thoughts than your thoughts.
So...there ya go.
So let me ask you then, would you if you were in a position to get the Israelites out of Egypt, concoct a plan with the deliberate intention for that plan to fail and nine times, leading up to a mass murder that you plan to commit, in order to persuade the Pharaoh to release the Israelites, and to make sure the Pharaoh doesn't relent before your plan had run it's course, you harden the Pharaoh's heart?
I'm guessing you would not which only proves your point, that; “For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, declares the Lord."
Your thread titles read like cries for help. It like watching a bad break-up and you’re leaving angry, drunk, late night messages on God’s answering machine. If you’re hoping He might take you back, you’re going about it all the wrong way.
Some christians are so talented at being insulting.
So let me ask you then, would you if you were in a position to get the Israelites out of Egypt, concoct a plan with the deliberate intention for that plan to fail and nine times, leading up to a mass murder that you plan to commit, in order to persuade the Pharaoh to release the Israelites, and to make sure the Pharaoh doesn't relent before your plan had run it's course, you harden the Pharaoh's heart?
I'm guessing you would not which only proves your point, that; “For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, declares the Lord."
Which proves Diesel's point.
Well...based upon a literal assessment of the Bible...I would know that any critique that I could make as to what God thought or did would fall short because it is explained that I am working with my inferior thoughts & ways compared to Gods.
So...what God thinks and what God does will always be superior to what I/you/Diesel would think should be done.
If you are gonna read the Bible literally...you must always remember that whatever God thought or did...is better than what you would have thought or done.
Once y'all get hip to that...literal readings of the Bible will be much easier.
So he intended for destruction to kill his followers? Why would he be sorry about creating man kind if he is all powerful? If you are all knowing you wouldn't create mankind then regret it later. He intended to create mankind with sinful nature?
If an all powerful and all loving God chooses to sit back and allow the devil to continue to exist and destroy his followers, isn’t God making the devil his agent?
Why 6 days? Why not instantaneous?
It means the God of the Bible does not exist. If the God of the Bible were so convincing of his existence we would have majority believers. What we have here is nothing more than blind faith. You would think if faith were worth anything he would reach out to us through reason.
No, no, no...you are still messing up.
You keep saying "If this"...and..."if that", "You would think", and ask "Why would he...?"
If you are going to take it as literally true that all these things you question went down exactly as it is written...you also have to take it as literally true that WHATEVER God thought or did was superior than what you would have thought or done.
And the only reason you might not think so...is because your thought function is on a much lower level than Gods...and compared to him, you are a ignorant simpleton.
It LITERALLY explains that to you, in no uncertain terms.
It also tells you NOT to question God...so, stop doing that.
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