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Come on, in the Ukraine people are getting by and that is a warzone!
Are you in Ukraine?
If not, moot point.
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Originally Posted by City Guy997S
I knew a guy in the 80s that was a prepper. He was wealthy and lived in a gated country club. Guy was HUGE on guns/ammo/bomb food......ready to eat meals. He had a substantial tool collection as well. So Franklin died, widow is overwhelmed. Guns got sold, ammo was given away (dozens of ammo boxes), bomb food went in the trash (we opened one, it was awful to eat).
I got the tools. Widow was younger and she lived to be 100 years old.
Moral of the story..........the end of the world likely comes after your day has come!
OK then, so you are outing yourself as an anti-prepper?
(seems like we have had this conversation before...)
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Originally Posted by bigpaul
how do we prepare for a life changing event in moderation?
and what do you call moderation when the OP is about surviving 6-12 months?
What is moderation to one is extreme to another, but I notice that City Guy hasn't contributed one keystroke towards actually answering the question.
being a "city guy" I'm assuming he is no prepper. probably anti prepping .
when asked why he robbed banks, the bank robber said 'that is where all the money is'
why is it assumed that a 'prepper' must live on a coumpound in montana?
serious question tho for you.....if you read the responses in these threads (my new mini hobby) I see that all the 'preppers' go to great pains to describe their arms and ammo count as if that is job 1 when the lights go out and you are hungry.
You are in the UK, (your profile thingy says so) The UK has an unusual relationship with firearms such that only the nasty crooks have them. do YOU have a prepper grade rifle as well? If not, how do you get around that bit of coping that everyone else says they cannot....this is a serious question
thats fine by me.
anything one cant repair, make or grow we need to learn to live without. a lot of it depends on one's life style anyway, I intend to keep it simple.
I'm naturally a recluse a hermit and the survival rate in such an already low population area will be even lower.
Ever needed medical care from an injury where you can't reach? or see? break a bone?
I'm not trying to convince you of anything, just pointing out the obvious. Being self sufficient is different then isolation. Survival will EVENTUALLY require trading, bartering, buying something from someone, somewhere.
Ever needed medical care from an injury where you can't reach? or see? break a bone?
I'm not trying to convince you of anything, just pointing out the obvious. Being self sufficient is different then isolation. Survival will EVENTUALLY require trading, bartering, buying something from someone, somewhere.
Life and survival REQUIRES other people.
dosent mean that any medical professional will survive TSHTF, being mostly in hospitals in the cities they are on the front line and will probably be the first to go.
you may think survival requires other people but what if there arent any other people?
my area is very rural and very remote, the nearest emergency room is an hour by road and thats now, post SHTF it probably wont be safe or even possible.
when asked why he robbed banks, the bank robber said 'that is where all the money is'
why is it assumed that a 'prepper' must live on a coumpound in montana?
serious question tho for you.....if you read the responses in these threads (my new mini hobby) I see that all the 'preppers' go to great pains to describe their arms and ammo count as if that is job 1 when the lights go out and you are hungry.
You are in the UK, (your profile thingy says so) The UK has an unusual relationship with firearms such that only the nasty crooks have them. do YOU have a prepper grade rifle as well? If not, how do you get around that bit of coping that everyone else says they cannot....this is a serious question
firearms are available in the UK its just that we have more strict licencing laws.
one does not need an assault rifle in the UK to prep, there are other ways .all of them a lot quieter than a standard firearm.
Moderation is the wrong word and I'm not trying not to split hairs, but preparing for the 'obvious threat', the likely threat is correct.
Food-water-shelter.... basic, objective and obvious. Tools are more important then 10K rounds of ammo, but guns are tools. Manual skills required and if you pound computer keys all day, then try another approach or have interpersonal skills.
If this is what you mean by moderation, well OK, but the word moderation is like drinking warm beer to me.
Moderation is the wrong word and I'm not trying not to split hairs, but preparing for the 'obvious threat', the likely threat is correct.
Food-water-shelter.... basic, objective and obvious. Tools are more important then 10K rounds of ammo, but guns are tools. Manual skills required and if you pound computer keys all day, then try another approach or have interpersonal skills.
If this is what you mean by moderation, well OK, but the word moderation is like drinking warm beer to me.
anyone who talks about moderation to me that sounds like they want to limit what I can store.
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