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Old 04-01-2024, 02:44 AM
 
Location: Prepperland
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Good luck with that project.

Americans need to find a way to team up, find convivial and compatible compatriots to form cooperative communities, and build fortified disaster resistant villages. It’s that simple. Which is also near impossible, because our culture is fractured and lacking any cohesive philosophy to smooth over differences. We're jaded, cynical, unwilling to lead, nor trusting the leadership of anyone else. We're socialized hermits, seeking to "Get away from everyone else."
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Old 04-01-2024, 03:30 AM
 
Location: rural south west UK
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Good luck with that project.

Americans need to find a way to team up, find convivial and compatible compatriots to form cooperative communities, and build fortified disaster resistant villages. It’s that simple. Which is also near impossible, because our culture is fractured and lacking any cohesive philosophy to smooth over differences. We're jaded, cynical, unwilling to lead, nor trusting the leadership of anyone else. We're socialized hermits, seeking to "Get away from everyone else."
same on this side of the pond, most people are stupid when it comes to prepping and survival, we have just had a new wildlife programme on tv and people are complaining about -in this case- a pack of Hyenas killing a buffalo and the amount of blood, and a Coyote eating a Rabbits head, dont they know wild animals cant go to a supermarket? with an attitude like that many will not survive SHTF and dont deserve to.

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Old 04-01-2024, 08:30 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Dave_n_Tenn what exactly is for non-human consumption? I have a suspicion that you have a few parentheses and asterisks running around loose.
Well... if the product (like raw milk and farm fresh eggs) are sold without FDA oversight it has to be sold as "not for human consumption". I eat a lot of fresh eggs of various fowl...quail, duck and chickens. I get my meat and dairy from local people... mostly. When the farmers market sells farm fresh it has to labeled as such.

Does that make sense?
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Old 04-01-2024, 08:33 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Cool, now we know there's a 'prepper community' in the Hobe Sound area in Florida with established food production and horses, among other things. Added to the list of places to plunder in case things collapse and shortages come into play. You never know what people might remember or think of in times of desperation, and you just made it easier for them.
It's no secret, but the community in question isn't there. That's the RETAIL farmers market location.
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Old 04-01-2024, 08:34 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Good luck with that project.

Americans need to find a way to team up, find convivial and compatible compatriots to form cooperative communities, and build fortified disaster resistant villages. It’s that simple. Which is also near impossible, because our culture is fractured and lacking any cohesive philosophy to smooth over differences. We're jaded, cynical, unwilling to lead, nor trusting the leadership of anyone else. We're socialized hermits, seeking to "Get away from everyone else."
Absolutely true. Clearly you see that right here on these boards. People can be such a-holes.
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Old 04-02-2024, 10:10 AM
 
Location: Lost in Montana *recalculating*...
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Well... if the product (like raw milk and farm fresh eggs) are sold without FDA oversight it has to be sold as "not for human consumption". I eat a lot of fresh eggs of various fowl...quail, duck and chickens. I get my meat and dairy from local people... mostly. When the farmers market sells farm fresh it has to labeled as such.

Does that make sense?
Back in WV we would buy our hogs from a Mennonite farm which also has a retail outlet (Horsts Meats). Because they were USDA inspected even our whole hogs we butchered ourselves had to have the USDA stamp (you can see it in my previous photo). The hogs we get now in Montana are from a Hutterite farm and processed local by a guy that does wild game, beef, lamb and hog butchering (custom). Since he is not USDA certified the wrapping is stamped 'not for resale'.
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Old 04-03-2024, 06:20 AM
 
Location: Prepperland
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The world is divided into people who have Creator endowed rights and the people who want to take them away.
That should be enough common cause to unite the victims in opposition to the takers.
Which explains the deliberate fracturing of society, to dissolve that union.
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Old 04-03-2024, 07:22 AM
 
Location: Florida
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The world is divided into people who have Creator endowed rights and the people who want to take them away.
That should be enough common cause to unite the victims in opposition to the takers.
Which explains the deliberate fracturing of society, to dissolve that union.
No community ever begins as a completed assembly of people... it must develop, weed out the chaff, have value and benefit the individuals... and provide some sense security. In fact, our neighboring community recruited some individuals. I never even considered that.
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Old 04-03-2024, 08:16 AM
 
Location: SE corner of the Ozark Redoubt
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The world is divided into people who have Creator endowed rights and the people who want to take them away.
I agree with this.
Probably is the major reason, mankind is constantly at war.

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That should be enough common cause to unite the victims in opposition to the takers.
There are contributors, as well as victims and takers.


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Which explains the deliberate fracturing of society, to dissolve that union.
Right now, as with any Marxist takeover, the successful takers are using propaganda to make other takers (which, they pretend, are victims) go to war with the contributors.

The key to a successful community is to inoculate it, from the beginning, against takers.
I know of at least one community that has done that, successfully.
(Actually, I think I know of two.)
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Old 04-03-2024, 08:18 AM
 
Location: SE corner of the Ozark Redoubt
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No community ever begins as a completed assembly of people... it must develop, weed out the chaff, have value and benefit the individuals... and provide some sense security. In fact, our neighboring community recruited some individuals. I never even considered that.
You need a constitution and by laws to weed out the chaff.
They don't really have to be written, but they need to be agreed on.
(If you plan to maintain 100 members, they probably should be written.)

This might be a good starting point, although I think "Federation" might be a better model,
and I think the Core Principles listed in the article are misguided.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intent...ity#Governance
(But, it is food for thought.)

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