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Old 08-31-2019, 03:38 PM
 
Location: My beloved Bluegrass
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A teacher in South Carolina has filed suit, making part of it eligible for class action, over mandated hours working ball games concessions, being persurred to purchase items with own money, and being required to write lesson plans while on extended medical leave.

https://www.wvlt.tv/content/news/SC-...540476351.html

I hope she wins and I hope this happens in more states, mainly because of attitudes like the underlined. If schools demand hours beyond the contracted ones they need to pay the teachers for it.
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The contract states that faculty meetings must begin within 20 minutes of the end of the student day and can last no longer than one hour.

Faculty are only required to attend regularly scheduled meetings. Attendance at all other meetings and all other duties "beyond the employee’s normal duty hours" is voluntary, with the exception of parent-teacher conferences.

If there is a mandatory meeting beyond the one hour per week, employees will be paid at an hourly rate for attendance.

Education reform advocates often point to such provisions as obstacles to turning around low-performing schools, saying principals often don't have the leeway to require additional meetings or development that would improve student achievement.
State takeover of JCPS: What's at stake in the teachers union contract
It isn’t an obstacle, they just aren’t willing to pay for it.
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Old 09-01-2019, 05:24 AM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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We had a Principal who wouldn't start our after school staff meetings until every teacher had arrived. We'd usually sit for 10 or 15 minutes past official start time until the last stragglers arrived. Of course her posse thought this was OK.

One day we waited for over an hour when "someone" asked who we were waiting for. The Principal told and then "someone", in a profanity laden response, informed her that teacher was out sick, in fact had been out sick all week (" someone" did get a write up for foul language and unprofessionalism).

We also had a couple teachers who, at the end of every staff meeting, would ask a question that required a 30 minute answer. Every single time.
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Old 09-01-2019, 07:20 AM
 
Location: My beloved Bluegrass
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We had a Principal who wouldn't start our after school staff meetings until every teacher had arrived. We'd usually sit for 10 or 15 minutes past official start time until the last stragglers arrived. Of course her posse thought this was OK.

One day we waited for over an hour when "someone" asked who we were waiting for. The Principal told and then "someone", in a profanity laden response, informed her that teacher was out sick, in fact had been out sick all week (" someone" did get a write up for foul language and unprofessionalism).

We also had a couple teachers who, at the end of every staff meeting, would ask a question that required a 30 minute answer. Every single time.
I suspect “someone” got written up more because the principal was embarrassed than because of the language. What a waste of her teachers’ valuable time. I really do think all teacher contracts need to have protections limiting teacher outside of classroom time/non-normal duty hours.

I truly hope this class action lawsuit works.
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Old 09-01-2019, 08:29 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Three cheers for that teacher.

In my district, they also "requested" (demanded) that some teachers on medical leave write lesson plans (including daily plans). In one case, the teacher, who was recovering from shoulder surgery, came to school from 6 AM to 8 AM each school day (before the students arrived) to write daily plans, prepare materials needed and handle paperwork. To me that seemed to be counter-productive to the healing process and standard medical advice.
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Old 09-01-2019, 08:49 AM
 
Location: My beloved Bluegrass
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If I had ever worked in that district in South Carolina I would throw my name on the list in a heartbeat.
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Old 09-01-2019, 09:53 AM
 
Location: Colorado Springs
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We had a Principal who wouldn't start our after school staff meetings until every teacher had arrived. We'd usually sit for 10 or 15 minutes past official start time until the last stragglers arrived. Of course her posse thought this was OK.

One day we waited for over an hour when "someone" asked who we were waiting for. The Principal told and then "someone", in a profanity laden response, informed her that teacher was out sick, in fact had been out sick all week (" someone" did get a write up for foul language and unprofessionalism).

We also had a couple teachers who, at the end of every staff meeting, would ask a question that required a 30 minute answer. Every single time.

LOL. My wife told many similar stories to me before she retired. "Her posse" is spot on. Once while waiting for a staff meeting to start, a fellow teacher mentioned to my wife that she heard she had been "written up". The teacher asked for what. My wife replied for using the word "crap", as in "don't turn in crap work". A certain minority parent had complained. Anyway, in this staff meeting with the principal present, this teacher, who had tenure, asked my wife "who is the idiot who wrote that up?" The principal got beet red and excused herself to go "take a phone call".

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Old 09-01-2019, 10:14 AM
 
Location: Texas
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I agree with her lawsuit.
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Old 09-01-2019, 10:40 AM
 
Location: Suburbia
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We had a Principal who wouldn't start our after school staff meetings until every teacher had arrived. We'd usually sit for 10 or 15 minutes past official start time until the last stragglers arrived. Of course her posse thought this was OK.

One day we waited for over an hour when "someone" asked who we were waiting for. The Principal told and then "someone", in a profanity laden response, informed her that teacher was out sick, in fact had been out sick all week (" someone" did get a write up for foul language and unprofessionalism).

We also had a couple teachers who, at the end of every staff meeting, would ask a question that required a 30 minute answer. Every single time.
I’m amazed the entire staff sat and waited for an hour. I wonder how large her “posse” was.
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Old 09-01-2019, 10:50 AM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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I’m amazed the entire staff sat and waited for an hour. I wonder how large her “posse” was.
Oh, we were well trained. The reason why it was about the best high school in the system and no one wanted to get on the radar for intensive supervision and sent to one of the ghetto schools. The Association is/was worthless backing teachers on just about anything.

This was the Principal from whom I learned, in addition to Principal classes, the many ways possible to set up teachers to fail.

About 1/3 of the staff, so 20+/- were deputized for the posse.
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Old 09-01-2019, 11:41 AM
 
Location: Suburbia
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Oh, we were well trained. The reason why it was about the best high school in the system and no one wanted to get on the radar for intensive supervision and sent to one of the ghetto schools. The Association is/was worthless backing teachers on just about anything.

This was the Principal from whom I learned, in addition to Principal classes, the many ways possible to set up teachers to fail.

About 1/3 of the staff, so 20+/- were deputized for the posse.
But good Lord, an hour? That’s nuts.

I’m fortunate that I’ve never had to have after school staff meetings.
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