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Yes, I get it. What conservative values are you speaking of? Love of country? Honesty and integrity? Please explain.
It doesn't matter whether I personally agree with conservative values. You're missing the whole point. Public schools are supposed to satisfy the public. It's impossible to do that because you have a public that is diverse in their beliefs, and religion, and politics, and culture...etc. So the school systems have to try to walk the line balancing what various factions value. Including what kinds of books are in the school library.
Local school districts should be able to provide the reading material they desire and prohibit that which they choose. This notion we have at present where we think our views should be the standard for those living hundreds or thousands of miles from us is not good.
I remember reading a little book about the dangers of drugs and alcohol back then. At that time it was simply unacceptable on a peer level to engage in those things. The book made me very curious about something I would have otherwise never given a thought to and provided excuses for a person who indulged in such things.
For instance, this book claimed that alcohol lowered you inhibitions which is a complete lie. Your inhibitions are as strong when you're drunk as when you're sober. The fact is you choose to ignore them.
One can say, "Oh that's just semantics.", but our whole language or any language, for that matter, is built on semantics and inferences, many of which youngsters are not educated enough to discern.
Not everything we do for someone's own good is good for them.
It doesn't matter whether I personally agree with conservative values. You're missing the whole point. Public schools are supposed to satisfy the public. It's impossible to do that because you have a public that is diverse in their beliefs, and religion, and politics, and culture...etc. So the school systems have to try to walk the line balancing what various factions value. Including what kinds of books are in the school library.
Wait a minute. Public schools are supposed to satisfy the public? If that is true, why are parents who protest the content of their children’s schools wrong, but only if they are against a woke agenda?
Are you arguing that American children should be taught to be indoctrinated with anything other than reading, mathematics, and world history? This is America, not the land of whatever every fringe lunatic wants. If you don’t want your children to have traditional American values, take them to wherever you came from, or teach them at home. In your home, your children are your responsibility. Don’t put your fringe beliefs on mine.
Wait a minute. Public schools are supposed to satisfy the public? If that is true, why are parents who protest the content of their children’s schools wrong, but only if they are against a woke agenda?
Are you arguing that American children should be taught to be indoctrinated with anything other than reading, mathematics, and world history? This is America, not the land of whatever every fringe lunatic wants. If you don’t want your children to have traditional American values, take them to wherever you came from, or teach them at home. In your home, your children are your responsibility. Don’t put your fringe beliefs on mine.
Since you are putting words in my mouth, you may as well just continue the conversation alone with yourself.
Just go into any Middle School/High School, even poor schools and the majority of kids do have cellphones and do have access to the internet.
Go be a sub for a year and you'll see reality.
Yes I have taught in rural/low income schools.
The small towns don't have mass transit..never had mass transit and people are able to live full lives and get to where they need to go which includes the library
I taught for 7 years. I have seen the reality.
Public transportation is not just a rural issue. I live in a city of a million people, and no public transportation services my area. None.
Wait a minute. Public schools are supposed to satisfy the public? If that is true, why are parents who protest the content of their children’s schools wrong, but only if they are against a woke agenda?
Are you arguing that American children should be taught to be indoctrinated with anything other than reading, mathematics, and world history? This is America, not the land of whatever every fringe lunatic wants. If you don’t want your children to have traditional American values, take them to wherever you came from, or teach them at home. In your home, your children are your responsibility. Don’t put your fringe beliefs on mine.
If you don't want your kids checking out certain books, fine. You can specify that. Parents have always been able to do that. But what gives parents the right to tell other parents that their kids can't check those books out either?
None of the books that were banned in my district were ever required reading. None of them. No one was ever forced to read them. They were not part of the required curriculum. They were not discussed in class.
Local school districts should be able to provide the reading material they desire and prohibit that which they choose. This notion we have at present where we think our views should be the standard for those living hundreds or thousands of miles from us is not good.
I remember reading a little book about the dangers of drugs and alcohol back then. At that time it was simply unacceptable on a peer level to engage in those things. The book made me very curious about something I would have otherwise never given a thought to and provided excuses for a person who indulged in such things.
For instance, this book claimed that alcohol lowered you inhibitions which is a complete lie. Your inhibitions are as strong when you're drunk as when you're sober. The fact is you choose to ignore them.
One can say, "Oh that's just semantics.", but our whole language or any language, for that matter, is built on semantics and inferences, many of which youngsters are not educated enough to discern.
Not everything we do for someone's own good is good for them.
"this book claimed that alcohol lowered you inhibitions which is a complete lie. Your inhibitions are as strong when you're drunk as when you're sober."
Please cite your sources. Because evidence I've seen, actual controlled studies, show otherwise.
Well, our school is in the district that kind of started it all, so yes. Makes me ill.
It's fine if you don't want your kids reading something. But you have absolutely no right to tell me that my kids can't read it either. The irony is that none of the books, NONE OF THEM, were required reading for any class, club, group, etc. Not a single child was forced to read any of the books that people lost their minds over.
Sure I do. If the book contains any sexual or pornographic material, it would be illegal to expose it to a minor. Go let your kid go to 711 and buy a Penthouse magazine. Good luck. It’s illegal. The law cannot be circumvented just because a school decides a book is appropriate for minors to read, even if it isn’t.
I suggest you go buy your kid the non age appropriate material on your own
"this book claimed that alcohol lowered you inhibitions which is a complete lie. Your inhibitions are as strong when you're drunk as when you're sober."
Please cite your sources. Because evidence I've seen, actual controlled studies, show otherwise.
"It doesn't belong in a school library" and "they can't be mandated to read it" are two VERY different things.
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