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Old 08-23-2023, 11:01 AM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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Not necessarily unrelated.

I had to ride herd on a second semester Senior one year who was exempted from the Sex Ed unit in Health. He'd already failed the course seven (7) times (it was a one semester class). The kicker was that by the time he was at that point as a Senior he'd already fathered four children to four different girls and had a fifth one on the way.

Oh, he failed the class for the eighth time and didn't graduate (well, he also failed Senior English).

Anyway, while parents can restrict what books their kids can get at the school library (and many public ones) most either don't do so or just can't be bothered. That's when it falls to the judgement of the Librarian on what is appropriate to shelve.

My (former) system had all the Librarians meet once a month, separated by level, to review proposed additions to the collections and decide whether to shelve them or not.
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Old 08-23-2023, 05:09 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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If you don't want your kids checking out certain books, fine. You can specify that. Parents have always been able to do that. But what gives parents the right to tell other parents that their kids can't check those books out either?

None of the books that were banned in my district were ever required reading. None of them. No one was ever forced to read them. They were not part of the required curriculum. They were not discussed in class.
Well, you're wrong again. Over the years I taught in or was administrator in 6 schools, and none of them had such a provision. None.

How do you know what was required reading in every teacher's class in a whole district? Where exactly did you get that information? How exactly do you know what was discussed in every teacher's class in a whole school district?
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Old 08-23-2023, 05:12 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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Sure I do. If the book contains any sexual or pornographic material, it would be illegal to expose it to a minor. Go let your kid go to 711 and buy a Penthouse magazine. Good luck. It’s illegal. The law cannot be circumvented just because a school decides a book is appropriate for minors to read, even if it isn’t.

I suggest you go buy your kid the non age appropriate material on your own
Wait just a minute here. Define how you are using the phrase "any sexual...material".
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Old 08-24-2023, 08:00 AM
 
Location: Wonderland
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But.. the public libraries in small towns are often only open 1-3 days / week and sometimes (in our case) those hours are ONLY when kids are in school and adults are working. i.e. 10am-3pm. Really stupid, really Texas. Most libraries have electricity and lights (think night shift hours when students and farmers are available to go to the library)

Our community is very strong about banning books in schools and library, but it offers me a great opportunity to buy those banned books, including recently "The Masonry Bible", how to build stone walls, bridges, homes... - Free, (because it was a bible )
Interesting. I live in small town Texas, and our library is open on Saturdays. It's also open from 10 to 6 most days. It's closed Sunday and Monday.
Chandler Public Library | Chandler, TX - Official Website

Also, I looked up the library in Tyler, TX which is a small city nearby. It is served by a bus route. It is open till 7 pm most days. It is not closed on any days but does have shorter hours on the weekends (till five or six pm). Not only does it have thousands of books, it also allows people to check out art and all sorts of other services.
https://www.cityoftyler.org/governme...hours-holidays
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Old 08-24-2023, 08:20 AM
 
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Not necessarily unrelated.

I had to ride herd on a second semester Senior one year who was exempted from the Sex Ed unit in Health. He'd already failed the course seven (7) times (it was a one semester class). The kicker was that by the time he was at that point as a Senior he'd already fathered four children to four different girls and had a fifth one on the way.

Oh, he failed the class for the eighth time and didn't graduate (well, he also failed Senior English).

Anyway, while parents can restrict what books their kids can get at the school library (and many public ones) most either don't do so or just can't be bothered. That's when it falls to the judgement of the Librarian on what is appropriate to shelve.

My (former) system had all the Librarians meet once a month, separated by level, to review proposed additions to the collections and decide whether to shelve them or not.
I know this is really a separate issue, but how the heck was he a senior and had already failed Health seven times? He had to be failing a lot of things for years.
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Old 08-24-2023, 08:46 AM
 
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Oh good grief. The pendulum swings both ways.
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Old 08-24-2023, 10:39 AM
 
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I know this is really a separate issue, but how the heck was he a senior and had already failed Health seven times? He had to be failing a lot of things for years.
For some reason he failed Health every semester but (barely) passed most everything else. Had enough credits each year to pass. Health was/is required to graduate but isn't a must to be promoted or even be taken in a specific year. As long as he passed English each year plus had X number of Sciences/Social Studies/Math as well as a couple other credits (PE, Art, Tech) he moved on.

Three credits to include English got you out of 9th Grade, seven including English 9 and 10 got you out of 10th Grade, etc.

I just always thought it was ironic that he wasn't allowed to take the Sex Ed unit and had four, almost five, kids by the time he was 18. Then again I had a girl who had a kid every March from 8th through 12th Grades. Her Senior picture, or one of them, was her four kids and her wearing a "One in the Oven" sweatshirt. I still have that picture around somewhere.
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