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Old 10-02-2023, 12:59 PM
 
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No North Pacific warm blob right now. How will the cooler waters in the PNW effect the upcoming winter if they remain the same and at the same time with the ongoing El Nino




CanSIPS came out with their winter precip yesterday


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Old 10-02-2023, 04:54 PM
 
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Hot and dry like the last 7 winters.
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Old 10-02-2023, 07:30 PM
 
Location: New York Area
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^^ Not a chance. (In reference to Bastardi's forecast.)
A stopped clock is right twice a day.
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Old 10-03-2023, 04:54 PM
 
Location: Indiana Uplands
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A stopped clock is right twice a day.
No, he’s a tool for the energy companies and denies all climate change.
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Old 10-04-2023, 07:06 PM
 
Location: Near the Coast SWCT
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https://youtu.be/jigbJVDPU0A?si=R_x0S5C2vMCpDhDi
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Old 10-05-2023, 09:17 AM
 
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That's pretty textbook El Nino but I don't think it will be this way. Looking like El Nino will be peaking before or early in the winter with region 1+2 dropping off fast while region 3.4 will have a slower steady decline. Kind of a Modoki look to it. Bastardi a couple months ago said this winter will feature a "migrating Modoki"



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Old 10-05-2023, 08:01 PM
 
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NEW EUROPEAN SEASONAL OUT...
COLD & SNOWY WINTER SIGNAL APPEARS ..

The new October seasonal model run has come out hinting at a cold & snow eastern USA for Dec..Jan..Feb

*Below I've attached a comparison between the SEPT run and the current OCT run.
A few things of note; The NEW European...

1. Maintains lower height field across the eastern USA (storm signal)

2. Increases the western Canada Ridge (Cold signal)

3. Continues to show high latitude blocking over eastern Canada via a west based -NAO
These three signals are key to a snowy/cold winter forecast aided by a weak to moderate El Nino.


. I do think Nov ends up going warmer and into part of December but not blow torch as it’s a non La Niña year

https://twitter.com/MikeMasco/status...ZhF9Ws32w&s=19
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Old 10-06-2023, 07:12 AM
 
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NEW EUROPEAN SEASONAL OUT...
COLD & SNOWY WINTER SIGNAL APPEARS ..

The new October seasonal model run has come out hinting at a cold & snow eastern USA for Dec..Jan..Feb

*Below I've attached a comparison between the SEPT run and the current OCT run.
A few things of note; The NEW European...

1. Maintains lower height field across the eastern USA (storm signal)

2. Increases the western Canada Ridge (Cold signal)

3. Continues to show high latitude blocking over eastern Canada via a west based -NAO
These three signals are key to a snowy/cold winter forecast aided by a weak to moderate El Nino.


. I do think Nov ends up going warmer and into part of December but not blow torch as it’s a non La Niña year

https://twitter.com/MikeMasco/status...ZhF9Ws32w&s=19


Yes this new Euro seasonal outlook has a very interesting look.



Just slightly above normal temps for December here




Normal January




And colder than normal February? Wonder if we would be in a Modoki type ENSO by then?




No torch this winter?


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Old 10-06-2023, 07:31 AM
 
Location: New York Area
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Yes this new Euro seasonal outlook has a very interesting look.

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And colder than normal February? Wonder if we would be in a Modoki type ENSO by then?
So what's the difference between Modoki and west-based?
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Old 10-06-2023, 07:43 AM
 
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So what's the difference between Modoki and west-based?
I thought they were the same thing. Modoki is the Japanese term describing warmer ENSO anomalies in the Central Pacific.
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