'I was so livid': Disney heiress visits theme park undercover to see worker conditions (employees, jobs)

[Liar_Liar]

Originally Posted by djsuperfly

And sometimes people forget to mention that:

personal income tax rate in country A(which can include provided education, healthcare, and retirement benefits) can equal or be less than: personal income tax rate + tuition + healthcare premiums/payments + retirement contributions in country B

That's true. It all depends on your personal situation. Some people are better off in Country A while others are better off in Country B (Welfare model)

[KenFresno]

Originally Posted by djsuperfly

And sometimes people forget to mention that:

personal income tax rate in country A(which can include provided education, healthcare, and retirement benefits) can equal or be less than: personal income tax rate + tuition + healthcare premiums/payments + retirement contributions in country B

Exactly. And because those services are not run on a for profit basis they in the long run cost far less money per person then the idiotic for profit system we have here.

[Liar_Liar]

Originally Posted by KenFresno

Exactly. And because those services are not run on a for profit basis they in the long run cost far less money per person then the idiotic for profit system we have here.

I've always wondered this about people who disapprove of capitalism...

There are plenty of countries that have your ideal system. Why don't you move there?

[KenFresno]

Originally Posted by Liar_Liar

I've always wondered this about people who disapprove of capitalism...

There are plenty of countries that have your ideal system. Why don't you move there?

The two answers are obvious. I'll give you a hint, they both start with an F.

[Liar_Liar]

Originally Posted by KenFresno

The two answers are obvious. I'll give you a hint, they both start with an F.

A whole family moving to another country is not unheard of...

My family did it. I've met countless people my age with a story similar to mine whose families originated from all over.

And yes, I understand it's not a simple matter of buying airplane tickets..

[KenFresno]

Originally Posted by Liar_Liar

A whole family moving to another country is not unheard of...

My family did it. I've met countless people my age with a story similar to mine whose families originated from all over.

And yes, I understand it's not a simple matter of buying airplane tickets..

I know..my parents immigrated here.

The whole love it or leave it attitude is what is causing this country to fall further and further behind the rest of the developed world.

[djsuperfly]

Originally Posted by Liar_Liar

I've always wondered this about people who disapprove of capitalism...

There are plenty of countries that have your ideal system. Why don't you move there?

Capitalism and providing for the overall welfare of a nation's citizens are not necessarily mutually exclusive concepts.

[Transmition]

Originally Posted by Suburban_Guy

Maybe since she came from such privilege, she doesn't get the concept of minimum wage type jobs progressing onto better things.

That really implies that it is okay to treat workers badly if they aren't going to stay for long and that people don't get stuck in minimum wage jobs, both of which are untrue.

[Liar_Liar]

Originally Posted by djsuperfly

Capitalism and providing for the overall welfare of a nation's citizens are not necessarily mutually exclusive concepts.

I've been hearing that since forever. Still waiting for it to happen..

[PCALMike]

Originally Posted by djsuperfly

And sometimes people forget to mention that:

personal income tax rate in country A(which can include provided education, healthcare, and retirement benefits) can equal or be less than: personal income tax rate + tuition + healthcare premiums/payments + retirement contributions in country B

Dont forget the property tax rates+payroll taxes at the federal and local level as well. In America, property taxes in particular are usually far higher than in most other western countries.