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I've teamed up with coworkers on the sly to try to get someone to quit, say a new hire that the boss absolutely loved but we, down in the trenches, all hated. In one case it worked...we terrorized this guy for a couple weeks and he never came back. LOL
I know it sounds bad, but team interviews and vetting can go a long way in bringing the right person into a cohesive work crew so things don't get ugly.
Several years ago, I worked with a guy who showed up an hour late, took a 2 hour lunch, and left an hour early every day whenever the boss wasn't around.
If it doesn't affect my ability to do my job, I don't care.
In a team environment, it often does. It means more work for you. But thats good that in this case it didn’t affect you.
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Originally Posted by wangchin213
People expressing political, religious, sexist, or "extremist" views? I don't care.
You clearly never been a Republican working next to an outspoken Democrat, or vice versa. Or an Atheist working next to an outspoken Christian, or vice versa.
Most people don’t mind office chat, but it can easily devolve into a hostile/combative work environment during controversial topics with outspoken people, which can affect the level of professionalism and productivity.
You clearly never been a Republican working next to an outspoken Democrat, or vice versa. Or an Atheist working next to an outspoken Christian, or vice versa.
Most people don’t mind office chat, but it can easily devolve into a hostile/combative work environment during controversial topics with outspoken people, which can affect the level of professionalism and productivity.
I worked for a company once where one of the other employees was a very outspoken Christian, I'd call him a hyper-Christian. Reading the bible while at his workstation, frequently praying, headphones on listening to sermons, etc. He did good work otherwise, so everyone let it go. One day I got cornered by him and was grilled about my beliefs. I told him I wasn't religious and left it at that, none of his business. After that I occasionally found labels stuck onto my car with handwritten messages like "God is real" and "Jesus loves you". LOL. I kept them as entertaining mementos for a while.
How can anyone think that's even remotely appropriate, especially at work?
I worked for a company once where one of the other employees was a very outspoken Christian, I'd call him a hyper-Christian. Reading the bible while at his workstation, frequently praying, headphones on listening to sermons, etc. He did good work otherwise, so everyone let it go. One day I got cornered by him and was grilled about my beliefs. I told him I wasn't religious and left it at that, none of his business. After that I occasionally found labels stuck onto my car with handwritten messages like "God is real" and "Jesus loves you". LOL. I kept them as entertaining mementos for a while.
How can anyone think that's even remotely appropriate, especially at work?
Those are the guys that give Christians a bad name. Jesus himself would not approve of such behavior.
I think a lot of that type of behavior boils down to boredom. Plain and simple. People are bored with their own lives and feel the need to stir things up with other people to try and kickstart some "excitement" into their soul-crushing attempts at life. I have worked with a number of these types of people. I am working with one now who is constantly commenting on colleague's status on Teams. "Hey I noticed Bob was on Away for 2 hours today." "Did you see Mary was offline by 4pm today?"
I would love to tell them to "get a life" but I'm certain that would get me terminated so I just stay quiet.
I worked for a company once where one of the other employees was a very outspoken Christian, I'd call him a hyper-Christian. Reading the bible while at his workstation, frequently praying, headphones on listening to sermons, etc. He did good work otherwise, so everyone let it go. One day I got cornered by him and was grilled about my beliefs. I told him I wasn't religious and left it at that, none of his business. After that I occasionally found labels stuck onto my car with handwritten messages like "God is real" and "Jesus loves you". LOL. I kept them as entertaining mementos for a while.
How can anyone think that's even remotely appropriate, especially at work?
You're too nice. I would have ripped up the stickers and laid them on his desk. Imagine if he was a Muslim/Hindu/Atheist/Satanic and did such things?
I find that if someone is so lazy that it's keeping everyone else from getting their work done properly they usually end up finding a way to get themselves fired before too long. Some people are not willing to wait that long though and want to hurry the process along. Plus of course there are those with connections who never end up getting fired, but if you try to mess with those people you'll end up angering the wrong people and it can go upside down on you.
I find that if someone is so lazy that it's keeping everyone else from getting their work done properly they usually end up finding a way to get themselves fired before too long. Some people are not willing to wait that long though and want to hurry the process along. Plus of course there are those with connections who never end up getting fired, but if you try to mess with those people you'll end up angering the wrong people and it can go upside down on you.
I guess that depends on the line of work you're in. What I've seen is the managers who hired them can't admit to having made a mistake by firing them. Instead, the promote them to a new position where they don't have to do anything but create more work for everyone else.
By and large, I do my work, and take the attitude of 'you mind your business, I'll mind mine'.
There was one exception, about....wow, almost 20 years ago now (time flies.) Temp job, on a team of five contractors. Looking up defunct circuits that were still getting billed for a major telecom company. So basically, self-directed work. You got paid the same whether you found 1 circuit a day, or 20 a day. So no skin off my nose what everybody else is doing, that's for the managers to keep tabs on. I focused on me, as did three of the others.
The fifth guy though....was a PITA. Uber-Bible-thumping Christian. Kept trying to push the rest of us into Bible study (Got told, "Work's not the place for it, we're not interested.") Tried lecturing us about how 'ungodly' we were. (We would talk about something else as if he wasn't even there.) Tried leaving pocket Bibles on desks. (I left "Wicca For Dummies" on his, for some odd reason, he wasn't appreciative of that. Nor did he like another coworker leaving a book about the teachings of Buddha. Can't imagine why, I mean, sharing, right?) Basically, we amused ourselves by aggravating him as much as we could when he started in on us.
But....talk about a *hypocritical* Christian. He would regularly come in to work late, always with some bizarre excuse. Two hour lunches were the norm for him. So was leaving early. As was napping at his workspace. (For background reference, we were put into a repurposed conference room that we all shared as an 'office', so nobody else could really see us.) And for the topper, two of the other guys caught him watching porn on his *work* computer a few times.
I can't remember exactly what he did anymore that became the 'final straw', but he said something that got the other four of us incredibly hacked off. We sent an email to the managers, where we didn't snitch on him directly, but we did strongly suggest that maybe they should have his computer activity monitored very closely. He was gone three days later. He wasn't missed, and the office felt much more peaceful without him there.
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