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Old 10-09-2009, 10:03 PM
 
Location: Washington, DC & New York
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The 30k service is a large part of that figure, but with most cars at the dealership $150-$200 service visits are not out of the norm, what with the loaner cars (allegedly free), and the more parts to replace (cabin filters, etc.). And, one thing to remember a car with mileage approaching 50k miles is not new, despite one purchasing it as such. Parts do have a service life cycle within that mileage, so it's not too outrageous when one considers that it's probably going to be 3-4 years of average use to reach that figure.
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Old 10-10-2009, 09:52 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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I looked it up for the hell of it. Inspection 1 at 30K is labor intensive:
BMW Service Intervals (http://www.savagebmw.com/Service/content_service_Intervals.htm#I1 - broken link)
Yes it is and BMW loves the "check" word.
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Old 10-10-2009, 11:43 AM
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Location: MA/NH
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The new BMW cars don't have an oil dip stick. Only the dealership knows how much oil is required for an oil change. Anyway, where the car dealerships make their main profit on is the maintenance and repairs to the cars they sell. And that's why I prefer to keep my old cars. They are simpler in design and we can easily work on them ourselves.
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Old 10-10-2009, 02:10 PM
 
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The new BMW cars don't have an oil dip stick. Only the dealership knows how much oil is required for an oil change. Anyway, where the car dealerships make their main profit on is the maintenance and repairs to the cars they sell. And that's why I prefer to keep my old cars. They are simpler in design and we can easily work on them ourselves.
This is pure stupidity, and now I will never buy a BMW. What happens when the car gets older, and the car starts to burn oil? I agree with you, I will keep my old car too.
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Old 10-10-2009, 03:26 PM
 
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This is pure stupidity, and now I will never buy a BMW. What happens when the car gets older, and the car starts to burn oil? I agree with you, I will keep my old car too.
You are not alone... many repeat BMW customers have expressed the same feeling
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Old 10-10-2009, 03:27 PM
 
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Not by a long shot. FN (fabrique national) in Belgium built shafties starting around 1910.

There's a host of other manufacturers in there, too ... Zundapp, for one. While a later manufacturer, MotoGuzzi is one of my favorites after having owned a few early R-50 and R-60 BMW's (and a stray R-27), then on to V-700/750/850's from MG.

The concept of shaft drive in a two wheeler started with shaft drive bicycles as far back as the 1860's.
I had a Zundapp... that 49cc would really move... Also have a 1939 Wanderer... 97cc with pedals and a 2 spd tank mounted shifter.
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Old 10-10-2009, 03:36 PM
 
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This is pure stupidity, and now I will never buy a BMW. What happens when the car gets older, and the car starts to burn oil? I agree with you, I will keep my old car too.
There is a proprietary machine at the dealerships that uses sound harmonics on the oil pan, as the sound waves propagate through the oil the frequency changes and the wave unit vector is refracted in different directions. The new manipulated wave signals are picked up through 3 receiving units located in proprietary locations in the engine bay, the signals are then triangulated and analyzed through sophisticated software. Through this procedure they are able to calculate oil mass with such precision and accuracy that the results are within +/- 7.3x10^15 molecules (which varies the mass relative to the oil formula used). This is based on an oil settling time of 35.7 hours in atmospheric pressure at 295.372 Kelvin.

Dipsticks are for fat lazy stupid Americans.
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Old 10-10-2009, 10:22 PM
 
Location: Purgatory (A.K.A. Dallas, Texas)
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Nope. I own a BMW Z4, and oil changes are around $150 a pop if you let them do it. Oil + service + labor = $$$.

The BMW service ads assume some things, like you drive like a madman if you get the Lexus instead of the BMW. Thing is though, if you're going to get the Lexus first, you really don't want to go fast ... not seriously anyway. The only car they got which is serious is the IS-F, and even then, it is more expensive than a M3, so you shouldn't get it anyway unless you're bonkers. Thus my point is those assumptions are nuts and shouldn't drink the Kool-aid.

Correct on the oil change, incorrect on the price of the IS-F versus the M3.
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Old 10-10-2009, 10:25 PM
 
Location: Purgatory (A.K.A. Dallas, Texas)
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BMW's aren't built for longevity, they are lease cars.

And don't let BMW mislead you, the maintenance isn't "free", it's included in the price of the car.
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Old 10-10-2009, 10:33 PM
 
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BMW's aren't built for longevity, they are lease cars.

And don't let BMW mislead you, the maintenance isn't "free", it's included in the price of the car.
While that can be said for the new ones, the old ones were very reliable, especially the E30 like I had with 360,000 miles one the original engine.
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