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The idea of killing a famous US citizen at that time is *wild*, after all the Nanking foreign safety zone had over a dozen US citizens in it as well as many other countries reporting on the attrocities and they weren't drug out of there and executed.
For scale, her disappearance was 11 months after the Berlin Olympics.
The idea of killing a famous US citizen at that time is *wild*, after all the Nanking foreign safety zone had over a dozen US citizens in it as well as many other countries reporting on the attrocities and they weren't drug out of there and executed.
For scale, her disappearance was 11 months after the Berlin Olympics.
My POINT, is that the Japanese were in the lead-in to war. Not WW2 as of yet, but war. Perhaps Amelia was seen as a spy, and they executed her for it. Whether she really was spying, OR if she just had the bad chance to land in the wrong area during that.
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In 1937 the Japanese were heavily involved in the Chinese conflict. It is several thousand nautical miles to the Marshall Islands from Japan. With as much going on in regards to the occupation of China in 1937 I just don’t see Japan patrolling that far out.
I just don’t see with the recorded direction (radioing the Ithaca their bearing) they were flying and the strong radio contact with the Ithaca, I can’t see them crashing anywhere but within a few hundred mile radius of Howland Island with what limited fuel they had.
It would be nice if they indeed find the plane as it would put all of these theory’s to rest. I mean anything is possible once you step away from an analytical standpoint.
Case in point the modern day theory’s of the disappearance of Malaysian flight 370.
My POINT, is that the Japanese were in the lead-in to war. Not WW2 as of yet, but war. Perhaps Amelia was seen as a spy, and they executed her for it. Whether she really was spying, OR if she just had the bad chance to land in the wrong area during that.
I'd recommend floating that theory in the history forum. They'd be an excellent opinion to hear from re: that theory.
Any other examples as to Americans being grabbed and executed by the Japanese in 1937?
I'm unfamiliar with that occurrence.
My POINT, is that the Japanese were in the lead-in to war. Not WW2 as of yet, but war. Perhaps Amelia was seen as a spy, and they executed her for it. Whether she really was spying, OR if she just had the bad chance to land in the wrong area during that.
They were in the lead-up to war, but were still buying steel, oil and other materials heavily from the United States at this time. It's hard to believe they would want to risk the US source of vital resources, and rescuing Emilia and Fred would have been a propaganda boon.
It is certainly possible that the Japanese were scouting/exploring the Gilbert Islands for future use, as they occupied these islands in the days right after the Pearl Harbor attack. Plenty of maybes out there. If there was a Japanese ship that was scouting the Gilbert Islands, did Emilia take a picture of the Japanese ship as she circled it before landing? Then once in Saipan the film is developed and they are considered spies and executed? Have they found the plane as hinted in the article that started this thread? Plenty of other theories out these that won't likely be solved or disproved, unless the future submersible takes video and pictures of Emilia's plane in the next year or so.
Figured I'd post this and get some thoughts from you all and.. Any opinions on what I say, or what's in the article that come to mind for you..
So.. My thoughts? It's interesting. Obviously follow up is needed.
I'm not sold on this.. A few things that stand out to me.. First, being that the image is just too damn perfect.
Beyond that.. The Electra didn't have swept back wings.. Not to that extent.. but.. I can come up with two reasons now to possibly explain that.. First.. Who knows how they hit the water and what would have happened when they did. Could have broken the wing supports and.. The wings wound up at a greater angle when it settled on the bottom.. There's possibiities about what would happen with the pressures of 16k feet.. I'd assume the fuel tanks had air and would have imploded.. WELL before it got even close to 16k feet.
It could be a situation where decay and currents over the past 87 years have 'swept' the wings back like that?
But.. Overall.. The image just seems too perfect after 87 years on the bottom. That long in saltwater.. Aluminum frame? I wouldn't think there'd be a whole lot left no matter what.. Certainly not so much that.. In that image, it looks mostly intact. It might have looked like that the first 5, 10 or 20 years.. but it's been 87.
I'd.. More have expected something along the lines of a hollow frame.
Anyway.. Yeah.. I think someone needs to put a remote vehicle down there and get some video.. Lord knows what it is for sure without looking.. But.. There's a chance. And that chance means it's 100% worthwhile to check it out more closely.
And.. No matter what.. while this guy went a little bit clickbaity with his statement of
I'd be even happier if they had dialed that back even more to say they had captured an image CONSISTENT with the Electra.. or Possibly Consistent or Could Possibly Be..
"Appears to be" is a bit too strong of wording for me.
But.. At least they aren't the idiots at TIGHAR who put out a press release every couple of years saying how they've solved the Earhart case.
To me.. It's history.. So, we do need to keep investigating to solve it. And.. If this winds up being the plane, it should be recovered.. And.. Exactly what from there.. I don't know. But.. First and foremost.. Laying Earhart and Noonan to rest. I know some might argue that's what they're doing now.. But.. I look at it along the lines of the Hunley sub.. And I don't know that you can answer all the questions and get the entire story without recovering the aircraft.. Assuming it's possible. Going back to the 87 years.. Trying to recover it may destroy it. the Hunley was iron.. The Electra is aluminum.
They can't even find the parts from a Malaysia Airlines 777 that crashed into the ocean 10 years ago, but they are going to find wreckage from a Lockheed 10-E Electra that has been on the bottom of the ocean for almost 90 years?
They can't even find the parts from a Malaysia Airlines 777 that crashed into the ocean 10 years ago, but they are going to find wreckage from a Lockheed 10-E Electra that has been on the bottom of the ocean for almost 90 years?
Yeah, good luck with that.
It would be a chance discovery, but not impossible. A group of divers fairly recently found part of Space Shuttle Challenger, which exploded some 38 years ago. Of course, everybody knew about where it hit the ocean, but this group wasn't looking for the Challenger; they just happened upon it. So perhaps highly unlikely, but it's possible that Earhart's plane has been found. I hope it has been.
Throwing a theory out there to support her being captured by the Japanese.
We are pretty sure she was off course but within a few hundred miles of Howland Island. She's looking for a US destroyer. Instead she finds a Japanese destroyer, circles, and then crash lands close to the Japanese ship. She probably can't identify the difference between an American and Japanese military ship, and even if she sees the flag, any ship in an emergency is better than nothing. The plane floats for enough time that the Japanese get long-boats out and keep the plane from sinking, and recover Emilia and Fred, and then the plane. From that point, heading to Saipan makes sense as a major Japanese facility in the area.
Just a somewhat plausible way she, Fred and the plane could have gotten to Saipan.
Almost 4 and a half years prior to Pearl Harbor the Japanese would have killed her?
There is just zero motivation, heck, negative motivation to do something like that at that time.
US military intelligence at the time felt the Japanese could be preparing for a wider war in the Pacific.
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