About Justin Trudeau's personal life... (living in, pub, celebrity)
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I basically agree with you and I never heard Trudeau’s “rumor” nor spent much time on social media. Trudeau’s Father and Mother were both quite well-known outside Canada so as far as the gay community that I’m familiar with, they definitely knew who he was.
I’m straight but I’m the biggest ally of gay/lesbian people, there’s nothing “malicious” about, even just speculation, someone possibly being gay as it’s completely normal and natural to be gay.
Sexuality is a very private matter and should be respected, however sexuality is also a spectrum, some can very well be fluid and ambiguous. Unless we know him well in person, no one can be 100% sure.
I think you missed the main point of my post. Sure it's all natural and completely normal to YOU if you say so, but YOU aren't the target so your opinion doesn't really matter to anyone intent on spreading unfounded rumours and speculation about the subject of this topic.
Their targets (besides the intended victim of the discussion) are the people for whom it's completely the opposite, terrifying taboo, evil perversity, the work of the devil (in their minds) - and it's those kinds of non-accepting people, the ones who are terrified and revolted by it, that are the ones who maliciously try to start trouble and spread the fear by spreading unfounded rumours and speculation. They don't care about what accepting people like you think, they only care about the opinions of other malicious minded non-accepting people just like them who will do more damage by spreading more and more malicious rumours with no foundation.
I think the title of this thread, and the original post in this thread, are prime examples of that speculative gossip-mongering intention to cause trouble. What was the point of this thread if it wasn't intended to get more doubts and speculation happening with other taboo-minded gossip-mongerers who love to cause and spread trouble for their intended victims? Just sheer, unfounded gossipy psycho-babble by people obsessed with other people's sex lives. There was no other point to it.
It’s been my observation over the years that Canadians in general don’t see their politicians as demi-gods, celebrities or even role models. They vote based on party policies, not on personality or physical appearance of the party leader. Eight years in power is usually about the limit they will tolerate any leader. Political flaws always become glaringly obvious by then.
I have no interest in the Trudeau’s personal lives. I never met either of them. I find the interest expressed in Justin Trudeau’s sex life rather creepy.
It's beyond creepy - it's bizarre, there's something sleazy and slimey about such conjecture and speculation of people who are obsessed with the sex lives of other people. It makes me feel like I need to give my brain a shower when I encounter such sleaziness online.
For what it's worth, it sounds like certain people's fantasies. I had heard rumours for years now that Sophie and Justin were separated and that turns out to be true, and those rumours were usually accompanied by speculation about Melanie Joly, not that he was suddenly exploring with men after years of pursuing female partners. Doesn't seem plausible that he's totally unattracted to women after what we know of his life and if he's bi I don't see why he'd choose a male partner deliberately if he was worried about political repercussions. All sounds made up.
I think you missed the main point of my post. Sure it's all natural and completely normal to YOU if you say so, but YOU aren't the target so your opinion doesn't really matter to anyone intent on spreading unfounded rumours and speculation about the subject of this topic.
Their targets (besides the intended victim of the discussion) are the people for whom it's completely the opposite, terrifying taboo, evil perversity, the work of the devil (in their minds) - and it's those kinds of non-accepting people, the ones who are terrified and revolted by it, that are the ones who maliciously try to start trouble and spread the fear by spreading unfounded rumours and speculation. They don't care about what accepting people like you think, they only care about the opinions of other malicious minded non-accepting people just like them who will do more damage by spreading more and more malicious rumours with no foundation.
I think the title of this thread, and the original post in this thread, are prime examples of that speculative gossip-mongering intention to cause trouble. What was the point of this thread if it wasn't intended to get more doubts and speculation happening with other taboo-minded gossip-mongerers who love to cause and spread trouble for their intended victims? Just sheer, unfounded gossipy psycho-babble by people obsessed with other people's sex lives. There was no other point to it.
People like that need to get a life.
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When you used the word “malicious” it implied that being speculated as gay was something evil and harmful. I’m not Canadian, I don’t follow Trudeau’s personal life but something about his seemingly open and relaxed demeanor tells me he’s probably someone very comfortable with his sexuality and fairly open-minded. He may very well be straight, but people who are very secure with themselves and their sexuality would not be offended nor see themselves as “victim” if the question about their sexual orientation was raised. Only those who are either in the closet, see LGBTQ as something disgraceful and negative, and extremely bigoted people would freak out over such “speculation”.
I agree people shouldn’t gossip and a public figure’s private life is no one’s business, but he’s a fairly attractive young man with a lot of power, charisma and high profile, people are going to pay attention/be curious and form their opinions, regardless how high our moral sense and self discipline are.
I’m part French, I remember when Francois Mitterrand died his love child with his mistress suddenly appeared in the public along with Mitterand’s wife and sons at his funeral. The French public mostly shrugged: “et alors?”
Meanwhile the Americans went nuts over Clinton’s affair with Monica Lewinsky, spending so much of taxpayers’ $ on the investigations and such.-just an example why I failed to see why the “malicious” nor “victim” remarks.
They're only separating for now, they aren't divorcing.
Don't worry about the rumours. Only non-pragmatic and unintelligent people on social media pay attention to silly rumours and conspiracies. I think the majority of Canadians don't pay much attention or even care about unverified rumours and speculations about the personal lives of political figures and celebrities in Canada. The Trudeau family's personal lives are nobody else's business unless they choose to let the general public know about their personal lives.
The nonsense rumours you're referring to about him maybe being gay (which he isn't) got started on social media in another country (said country will remain un-named) immediately after he was elected as prime minister. They were started by two sets of people - (1) the usual political mudslinging conspiranoids who were in direct opposition to his politics and (2) the hopeful wishing gay people in other countries who had never heard of him before he was elected but they thought he looked really yummy and they really, really hoped he was gay. It was all over social media and they weren't the only ones spreading other speculative or malicious rumours about him either. The funny thing is nobody was interested or cared about him or his activities before he was elected.
But to date nobody has ever come up with any evidence to back up the rumours and Trudeau and his lovely wife have ignored them or laughed at them.
But more to the point - real Canadians don't care. Speculative rumours and conspiracies without evidence are for fools who will believe whatever they want to believe regardless of lack of evidence.
I think you missed the main point of my post. Sure it's all natural and completely normal to YOU if you say so, but YOU aren't the target so your opinion doesn't really matter to anyone intent on spreading unfounded rumours and speculation about the subject of this topic.
Their targets (besides the intended victim of the discussion) are the people for whom it's completely the opposite, terrifying taboo, evil perversity, the work of the devil (in their minds) - and it's those kinds of non-accepting people, the ones who are terrified and revolted by it, that are the ones who maliciously try to start trouble and spread the fear by spreading unfounded rumours and speculation. They don't care about what accepting people like you think, they only care about the opinions of other malicious minded non-accepting people just like them who will do more damage by spreading more and more malicious rumours with no foundation.
I think the title of this thread, and the original post in this thread, are prime examples of that speculative gossip-mongering intention to cause trouble. What was the point of this thread if it wasn't intended to get more doubts and speculation happening with other taboo-minded gossip-mongerers who love to cause and spread trouble for their intended victims? Just sheer, unfounded gossipy psycho-babble by people obsessed with other people's sex lives. There was no other point to it.
People like that need to get a life.
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Yes, of course, but that is the norm here on CD P&OC.
Besides, you will have a real queen in Canada in a few days...I'm headed north for a few weeks to spend some time at the happy place by the lake, visit neighbors, and help the fam clear out the house. Then a wedding in the GTA.
It’s not even in the same universe. I read a thread started there a few days ago that claimed that the record breaking temperatures in Europe were a media hoax. Poster after poster swallowed that and bashed the media. It obviously never even occurred to the twits that Europeans are allowed to own thermometers and don’t need to depend on the media to find out what the temperature is.
Yes, of course, but that is the norm here on CD P&OC.
Besides, you will have a real queen in Canada in a few days...I'm headed north for a few weeks to spend some time at the happy place by the lake, visit neighbors, and help the fam clear out the house. Then a wedding in the GTA.
Enjoy your time back in ON
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