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I've never had a problem with using an EV charger at hotel, but my wife and tend to travel during the off-peak seasons when our credit card offers amazing concessions, occupancy is lower, and highway traffic is a breeze. Our 127k miles old Tesla has free Supercharging so I generally try to charge at the last site before we reach our destination so I have at least 40%-60% SOC before turning in for the night. If the hotel has chargers that aren't utilized, I'll top it off to 80% and unplug before the end of the night just in case others may charge. Very rarely do I charge overnight.
Personally, I think the valet could manage the charging levels and move the cars around accordingly, or folks can leave a post-it note on the car or charging saying it's okay to remove after a set time...like "remove plug after 2:15pm." or something. Induction charging while slower and less efficient can solve the problem too and hope it becomes a reality before this problem gets bigger with more EV adoption mixed with self-interested attitudes.
People leave their clothes in the machines after the machine has finished running. In NYC, if you are not back when the machine stops and people are waiting, be prepared to find your clean clothes on top of the machine or worse.
Uh no - read the studies instead of just guessing on infrastructure - there is a DOE report on the infrastructure to support EVs that says essentially that current plan should support even the most aggressive EV adoption rate.
I would like to read that plan if you could provide a link to it?
I'm pro EV, but I still have doubts if the grid can handle a massive surge of EV's charging, without some major upgrades to the grid.
I've never had a problem with using an EV charger at hotel, but my wife and tend to travel during the off-peak seasons when our credit card offers amazing concessions, occupancy is lower, and highway traffic is a breeze. Our 127k miles old Tesla has free Supercharging so I generally try to charge at the last site before we reach our destination so I have at least 40%-60% SOC before turning in for the night. If the hotel has chargers that aren't utilized, I'll top it off to 80% and unplug before the end of the night just in case others may charge. Very rarely do I charge overnight.
Personally, I think the valet could manage the charging levels and move the cars around accordingly, or folks can leave a post-it note on the car or charging saying it's okay to remove after a set time...like "remove plug after 2:15pm." or something. Induction charging while slower and less efficient can solve the problem too and hope it becomes a reality before this problem gets bigger with more EV adoption mixed with self-interested attitudes.
As we begin to seriously adopt EV's over the next decade, we will all have to learn some new charging etiquette and habits as you have done.
It will have to start with penalties, such as fines or surcharges if you charge well past your the time you are full.
Or we will need to see a massive amount of chargers installed. For overnight parking at hotels, wireless charging could be the answer.
I do a lot of traveling for my job and stay every week in a lot of hotels and I can honestly say, the most annoying hotel guests are most definitely not ones using EV chargers - in fact, I see next to zero evs at hotels. Nah, Id look elsewhere for annoying hotel guests...wont be hard to find them.
Kinda speaks to a larger problem. Where I live, EV's are common. A lot of businesses are setting up charging stations but there are not enough. Might see a few rows of 10 chargers and all filled, with more EV's parked out in normal spots.
My company has 4 chargers. There's probably 10 EV's in a building with 150 people. They won't install more chargers citing costs.
A few of my coworkers live in Apt where they can't charge, so charging at work is a preferred option, but they can't committ to buying an EV if they wont be able to secure a spot to charge at work.
I would like to read that plan if you could provide a link to it?
I'm pro EV, but I still have doubts if the grid can handle a massive surge of EV's charging, without some major upgrades to the grid.
Ok it's simple and YOU can look this up. Off peak (overnight) load is roughly 40% of on peak (4-9pm) load. The average EV adds about 10-15% load to the average household, all overnight. If you had everyone charging their cars overnight (which is how EVs tend to be operated) it would add 10-15% to the grid load, which is already about 40% lower than peak. So charging overnight (when 90% of EVs would charge) would bring off peak load to about 60% of peak load. VERY few would EVER charge from 4-9pm (peak commuting hours, so that's when cars would be driving, not charging).
I'm about average in use driving 1000 miles a month in my EV. It's about 180-240kWh per month to do that (65kWh x 3). My house uses 1800 or so kWh per month (which gives me a ~$200 bill). The EV basically is 10% of that use. A/C and water heaters use more.
Since it'll take DECADES for there to be a significant number of EVs on the road, even if we added that 10% load to PEAK hours, the grid would have enough time to compensate. Since most charging will STILL happen overnight, that 10% increase is a big, fat nothingburger. Seriously. Logic and math is your friend.
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