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Old 06-12-2023, 07:48 AM
 
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I prefer to book a neighborhood hotel then a fancy big one, then I know for sure the EV charger is free and not utilized much at all.
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Old 06-12-2023, 08:16 AM
 
Location: Dayton OH
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I do a lot of traveling for my job and stay every week in a lot of hotels and I can honestly say, the most annoying hotel guests are most definitely not ones using EV chargers - in fact, I see next to zero evs at hotels. Nah, Id look elsewhere for annoying hotel guests...wont be hard to find them.
Ha Ha, I tend to agree with you. My biggest peeve with Hotels are those guests who talk loud or yell in the hallways, slam the doors, or make as much noise as possible in the room next to yours at whatever hour they please. I've never rated a hotel bad based on parking places, although I have no EV experience. I'm more concerned about the inside of the hotel room than the outside features.
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Old 06-12-2023, 08:30 AM
 
Location: North Idaho
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I wonder how many ICE drivers park in a charging space just to annoy the elitist, arrogant EV drivers?
Take a look at how many cars you will see in handicapped spots that don't have a tag. Those people are not parking there because they want to annoy anyone. They are actually unaware of anyone beyond themselves and they take those spots because they are great parking spots, close to the doors.

If hotels and businesses put the charging spots in the best locations, they will not be left open for the electric cars. It has nothing to do with deliberately annoying people. It has to do with being too lazy and self-absorbed to walk an extra 25 feet.

The same with leaving the electric car parked in the charging spot overnight. It has to do with being too lazy and self-absorbed to make the effort to relocate the car when it is finished charging.

Ditto for restaurants and service stations. If someone plugs in and goes inside to eat, they are not going to come out to move the car until after they have finished eating and shopping and taking their potty break. Their car is going to stay in that charging spot until they are all finished with whatever business they have inside.
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Old 06-12-2023, 09:16 AM
 
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Remember the good old days when BMW drivers were the bad guys.
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Old 06-12-2023, 09:22 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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Huh. Is that why gas burners like to block the only diesel pump at stations? To get even with the oil burners?
Most people aren't bright enough to know what the green handle means. I've had people honk at me to move forward and then after they pull around me to the next pump they still haven't figured it out. So I show them. See, this is a green handle. Do you have one at that pump? No.
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Old 06-12-2023, 10:48 AM
 
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Kinda speaks to a larger problem. Where I live, EV's are common. A lot of businesses are setting up charging stations but there are not enough. Might see a few rows of 10 chargers and all filled, with more EV's parked out in normal spots.

My company has 4 chargers. There's probably 10 EV's in a building with 150 people. They won't install more chargers citing costs.

A few of my coworkers live in Apt where they can't charge, so charging at work is a preferred option, but they can't committ to buying an EV if they wont be able to secure a spot to charge at work.
My wife started driving an EV to work in 2015 where the office garage had 8 free level 2 charging stations, and 10 not-free charging stations. On any given day there would be 3 cars using the free charging stations, but 8 cars would charge up on Fridays to get ahead of the weekend.

Years later she moved to much more populated building from Downtown Los Angeles to Century City. This garage had 20 not-free charging stations but they were typically all occupied by the time she got to the office around 10:30am. However, all the cars would be done charging by the lunch hour where they'd shuttle all their cars out to avoid idle fees and to allow others to charge. She'd either move her car or have her secretary do it when they returned from lunch and that gave plenty of time to charge her car for 3-4hrs to make it back home. After her solo-HOV decal expired on the Fiat 500e, we bought a used Tesla to get another decal. The Tesla has 4X the range of the Fiat so she can drive to the office, courthouse, meet with a client, and make it back home with no need to charge in between.
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Old 06-12-2023, 10:54 AM
 
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Most people aren't bright enough to know what the green handle means. I've had people honk at me to move forward and then after they pull around me to the next pump they still haven't figured it out. So I show them. See, this is a green handle. Do you have one at that pump? No.
We drive our EVs about 95% of the time, but we still have our old MK4 VW Golf TDI and a Chevy Duramax (LBZ) so I know your experience first-hand. It is so annoying to see gasoline-powered drivers use the few pumps with diesel when there are plenty of other gasoline-only pumps open. It's moments those that you miss the truck stops that have rows and rows of diesel pumps...some that have them on both sides so trucks can fill both tanks at the same time. Fortunately for the VW, it gets a smidge over 700 miles before you need to refuel again.
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Old 06-12-2023, 11:09 AM
 
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I'd never road-trip in an EV. Vacation time is too precious to waste it hunting for chargers or sitting around waiting for a recharge.

PHEV's are a much better solution for anyone who occasionally needs to go more than 50 miles or so.
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Old 06-12-2023, 11:15 AM
 
Location: New Jersey!!!!
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I'd never road-trip in an EV. Vacation time is too precious to waste it hunting for chargers or sitting around waiting for a recharge.

PHEV's are a much better solution for anyone who occasionally needs to go more than 50 miles or so.
You must not have much vacation time if 25-30 minutes every 200 miles is a massive percentage of your overall leisure time.

Just say you don't like them. It makes more sense. "Hunting around for a charger" is a ICE'er statement. I won't explain why because that's always proven fruitless.
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Old 06-12-2023, 11:38 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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You must not have much vacation time if 25-30 minutes every 200 miles is a massive percentage of your overall leisure time.

Let's put this in another perspective, with average highway traffic, average speeds are really closer to 50 mph than they are to 70. So 200 miles is 4 hours of driving, or half a day. If 20-30 minutes every half day is too hard for someone's vacation time, I posit they aren't really taking a vacation at all.


If you're going 400 miles away, then you leave a half hour earlier than normal, stop once half a day into the trip and then finish the trip. You get to the end point at the same time as normal and have the same time at the "vacation" spot.


But like you said, explaining how it ACTUALLY works IN PRACTICE is pointless to do with people who have zero experience.
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