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I would say Bosh-Wash consists of the MSAs of DC, Baltimore, Philly, Northern NJ, NYC, Bridgeport-Stamford, New Haven, Hartford, Providence and Boston.
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I would say Bosh-Wash consists of the MSAs of DC, Baltimore, Philly, Northern NJ, NYC, Bridgeport-Stamford, New Haven, Hartford, Providence and Boston.
So not Norwich/New London?
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Good map. Harrisburg is absolutely an "ancillary" BosWash city, much like Springfield or Worcester.
Of course, Reading, Lancaster and York would be included as well as "ancillary" or "satellite" cities.
Geographically, the Southeastern quadrant of PA forms a pretty consistent landscape of contiguous metro areas.
Thanks, I rather like your word choice "ancillary". I use "orbiting", but ancillary is even better.
I suppose Portland, ME and possibly Richmond could also be ancillary given their relative proximities and connections to the opposite ends of the BosWash megalopolis. Specifically, Portland has regional ties to Boston (via New England) and Richmond ties somewhat to NOVA (via Virginia and the Greater Capital Region). The 2-hour stretch of I-95 between DC and Richmond is always very heavily congested, despite having no anchor city between the two. I know much of it is through-traffic, but there definitely must be commuter/local overlap.
Of course every American city is tied to NYC to varying degrees and depth, so there lies no support for my argument. Put another way, you can't use connections to NYC as an argument for being in the BosWash corridor since NYC connections are not exclusive to this region. Literally every part of the USA has some connection to NYC somehow.
Alternatively, you would be hard-pressed to correlate Portland with Baltimore, or Richmond with Philadelphia. After all, Philadelphia is as equidistant to Portland ME as it is to Erie (which is to say that is quite far-8 hours). And nobody would argue the Great Lakes Region is part of the BosWash corridor. So, I guess what I'm saying is that Portland and Richmond are mainly connected to the endpoints of BosWash, respectively.
Also, the word "Megalopolis" gives me major Sim City on Super Nintendo nostalgia. (:
IMO, its the weakest point on the corridor. It's like a smaller/peripheral msa that happens to be on the linear Amtrak/195 corridor. Sort or reminds me of Harve De Grace in that way. The other MSAs are either major MSA or punch above their weight economically/culturally (Hartford, New Haven) or are large with fairly urban dense cores (Providence)
Portland is just way too far from Boston IMO, its really quite empty from Boston to Portland on average thas 2.5 hours with little in between, its still an hour and a half from 110k person Manchester. which is well off I-95. I dont think BoWash typically includes Portland for that reason.
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IMO, its the weakest point on the corridor. It's like a smaller/peripheral msa that happens to be on the linear Amtrak/195 corridor. Sort or reminds me of Harve De Grace in that way. The other MSAs are either major MSA or punch above their weight economically/culturally (Hartford, New Haven) or are large with fairly urban dense cores (Providence)
Hartford is a fairly large MSA btw, 1.2M people
that Norwich-Groton-New London Area has to be tied in with the mega-casinos and vacation spot of Newport RI. It's a weak spot but certainly adds value to the Southern New England area.
In between Norwich, Hartford, Worcester MA, and Woonsocket/Providence RI is the city of Willimantic CT a very small city but a city, home to Eastern Connecticut State University. Willimantic CT is technically part of the Boston CSA, crazy right? Don't be surprised to find New London County CT in there one day too..
Willimantic falls into the small downtrodden New England city in the "dead zone" along with Southbridge MA and Woonsocket RI. Very cheap locales with tons of crumbling mills and some poverty. This slightly applies to Norwich but more so New London, Woonsocket and Southbridge. far to the north Fitchburg MA fits this characterization but more so the look... Cumberland Farms is a key staple. Willimantic is generally suburban throughout most of its land area, and not that dense.
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I’d say anything within 60 miles/1 hour drive without traffic of Acela. If it has commuter rail/commuter bus to an Acela city and is a bit beyond that, include it. Portsmouth NH and Manchester NH are right at the northern fringe. Springfield MA is on the fringe. Western Suffolk County Long Island for sure.
If Richmond is included, there's no reason why Hampton Roads shouldn't. Both, along with DC and Baltimore, are Chesapeake Bay metropolitan areas so it's not a stretch to include the exclusively Virginian metros.
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