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Old 09-21-2016, 05:48 PM
 
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So I'm going to be giving up my American citizenship soon, but I still want to travel in and out of America...to visit family and friends mostly. Perhaps shopping, though I'm sure the wife will do that for me as much as I want, and then some...

I'm a dual citizen as of now, but people with my other citizenship are frequently denied visas into America.

The reason I want to drop American citizenship is because to hold high public office here you need to not be a dual citizen.
But, I mean, I shouldn't be barred from seeing my American family just because I want to hold public office. This is 2016, the world is a global village.

So, anyway, how do I navigate being able to visit my family in America as an ex American? Will it be difficult? Especially given Trump and whatnot?
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Old 09-22-2016, 06:28 AM
 
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Requirements for citizens of the country whose citizenship you choose will apply.
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Old 09-22-2016, 10:21 AM
 
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I'm a dual citizen as of now, but people with my other citizenship are frequently denied visas into America.

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The reason I want to drop American citizenship is because to hold high public office here you need to not be a dual citizen.



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So, anyway, how do I navigate being able to visit my family in America as an ex American?

So, when you drop your citizenship, you become like everyone else who is not a citizen. There is no special status for "ex-citizens" or "people with family". If people with your other citizenship are frequently denied visas, then you should expect to also be frequently denied citizenship.
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Old 09-22-2016, 11:55 AM
 
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But, shouldn't there be? I mean, a man has the right to visit his mother regardless of the musings of man written down in ink on mulch. They'd be denying me a fundamental human right..it doesn't seem fair.
You are making the decision.
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Old 09-22-2016, 01:57 PM
 
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But the choices have been made for me. Don't act like it's my fault.

-Don't hold public office.
-Do, and possibly be denied a visit to my mother's house.

It's not my fault I'm a dual citizen, so why is it, either way, I am being punished for it?
In kindergarten it is called unfair, in the adult world it is called decisions. Mother can visit you or you can take her with you.
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Old 09-22-2016, 02:08 PM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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But the choices have been made for me. Don't act like it's my fault.

-Don't hold public office.
-Do, and possibly be denied a visit to my mother's house.

It's not my fault I'm a dual citizen, so why is it, either way, I am being punished for it?
Why don't you complain to your home country, or the other one for which you hold citizenship rather, about how "unfair" its rules are?

I actually almost was sympathizing with you, almost, until your "ink on mulch" comment.

Don't like it, leave. Don't let the door hit you on the way out.
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Old 09-22-2016, 02:15 PM
 
Location: Greenville, SC
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But the choices have been made for me. Don't act like it's my fault.

-Don't hold public office.
-Do, and possibly be denied a visit to my mother's house.

It's not my fault I'm a dual citizen, so why is it, either way, I am being punished for it?
Are you looking for advice, or looking to whinge about the results of decisions you're making or going to make? And what make you think anyone here is responsible for the way things work, or could do anything about it.

I'll wager whatever country you're moving to will have its own set of rules surrounding citizenship and visas. Suck it up and live with the consequences of your decisions. If you don't like the way things work here, stay and work toward changing them or move elsewhere.
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Old 09-22-2016, 02:35 PM
 
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Would "dye on paper" have been more to your liking?

The reverse decision has the same consequences. Both sets of rules are archaic..

"Too bad" isn't an acceptable response to this.
What you find acceptable or not is irrelevant. No US passport, country of citizenship not eligible for WVP/ESTA - B1/B2 required.
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Old 09-22-2016, 02:37 PM
 
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Since you dont seem to like our rules in america so much please drop your citizenship and we can all hope you arent allowed to return.
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Old 09-22-2016, 02:42 PM
 
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But, shouldn't there be? I mean, a man has the right to visit his mother regardless of the musings of man written down in ink on mulch. They'd be denying me a fundamental human right..it doesn't seem fair.
Just get a passport from your other nationality and enter the USA as a tourist visit your family then return from whence you came.As for visiting your Mom being a fundamental right? its not a fundamental right and if you get denied entry into the USA you wont be allowed in the USA period.
If you do achieve high public office you might explore coming to America on some form of diplomatic visa. A story of one person who returned to Africa.=
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-34936103

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