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At least I'd like to believe the authorities in America are smarter than to let people in legally who have no money or income.
Unfortunately, we're not. Did you know that many recipients of welfare, SSI and medicaid are not US citizens and have not paid a penny into the system in their lives ... ever? How, you ask? Because foreigners sponsor their parents to get into the US and have no intention of caring for them after the 5 short years their parents are not allowed to apply for public aid. Once those 5 years are over, they expect the US taxpayers to support their parents. And our government is so stupid they actually get away with it. It's legal, but it should be a scam. What do we owe these people who lived and worked elsewhere all their lives and now are nothing but leeches on our system? If their kids want them here, their kids should support them for life, not the US taxpayers. One day we won't be able to pick up the tab. Then what will the world do? Whose teats will they suck off then?
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ideally america should be as multicultural as possible but making sure that there are more streamlined proportionate numbers so not one group gets the upper hand etc. but the rest of the world should be able to keep their traditional cultural and country.
Why do you elect Americans to be the ones for whom it is mandatory to give up their traditional culture and identity? Quite hypocritical of you, yet I suppose you come from a place like China where 95% of the population is exactly the same as you and like it that way and enjoy the advantages of a coherent society that supports each other and maintains their traditions and culture and keeps most outsiders from settling there and upsetting the status quo.
If you're immigrating on family basis (spouse, children, parents), the US citizen/legal resident sponsoring has to document that he/she can provide for both of you at a certain percentage above above the poverty level.
Let's tell the whole story, shall we? Only for five short years are the people dragging their foreign relatives here responsible for their keep. Then if they like they can foist their family, who contributed nothing to this country, off on the US taxpayer to support for the rest of their lives only ending when they die. Nice deal if you are not the US taxpayer.
i don't respect those who also just care about their own country, people and have no room in their heart for anything beyond that. to me that's not even a normal human being. there is no heart or soul there.
Is the mindset in your country all for freedom, equality and welcoming newcomers down on their luck?
Let's tell the whole story, shall we? Only for five short years are the people dragging their foreign relatives here responsible for their keep. Then if they like they can foist their family, who contributed nothing to this country, off on the US taxpayer to support for the rest of their lives only ending when they die. Nice deal if you are not the US taxpayer.
Is it painful to be so narrow minded? Please get the facts bore rambling. Thank you.
Is it painful to be so narrow minded? Please get the facts bore rambling. Thank you.
TY but your comment is the one that is incorrect as I have stated a fact so I suppose either you don't know the facts (you do) or you are attempting a liberal end run. How does it feel to try and cover up the truth because it doesn't fit YOUR agenda in life?
What I wrote is true. They have to wait only five years before going on the dole.
TY but your comment is the one that is incorrect as I have stated a fact so I suppose either you don't know the facts (you do) or you are attempting a liberal end run. How does it feel to try and cover up the truth because it doesn't fit YOUR agenda in life?
What I wrote is true. They have to wait only five years before going on the dole.
Going for what? Stand in line with anthropology 101 at the social security office?
Were I to manage to persuade my parents to leave their place, their country to live with me it would be a financial burden to keep up their standard of living. One I and my spouse will gladly accept. Freebies??? Let's have a good laugh when looking at what they might leave behind from medical to social security to retirement.
I find it hard to believe how many Americans are so bitter and hateful and uninformed when it comes to immigration. Just for your information - my husband is American Indian on a tribal roll but had to immigrate to the US. Where do you put him within your agenda?
I am certainly not saying EVERYBODY IS DOING THIS.
However, you have to admit it is true that some people are counting on bringing their parents here and getting the taxpayers to support them after five years!
Come on, you have seen and participated on THREADS on here by people asking for advice in this respect who state matter of factly in the very first post that they are interested in getting their parents on the dole and it doesn't take a genius to see this. For example:
Once again, please don't argue with me for the sake of arguing just because you do not like ME personally or do not like my matter of fact delivery instead of softening it or whitewashing it.
PS: As for your husband ... well I am part Native American and did not choose to be on the tribal rolls although I could because you only need to be 1/16th Native American to be on them. Native Americans don't have to immigrate into the country that they are already in. Also, Native Americans on reservations in the USA are entitled to FULL WELFARE, MEDICAID, ETC. if they want it and financially qualify for it (and I am not against that). I really don't understand what you are trying to state here. Perhaps your husband is a Canadian Native American who immigrated to the USA? Is that what you are talking about? Well of course he would have to legally immigrate like anyone else.
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Going for what? Stand in line with anthropology 101 at the social security office?
Were I to manage to persuade my parents to leave their place, their country to live with me it would be a financial burden to keep up their standard of living. One I and my spouse will gladly accept. Freebies??? Let's have a good laugh when looking at what they might leave behind from medical to social security to retirement.
I find it hard to believe how many Americans are so bitter and hateful and uninformed when it comes to immigration. Just for your information - my husband is American Indian on a tribal roll but had to immigrate to the US. Where do you put him within your agenda?
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PS: As for your husband ... well I am part Native American and did not choose to be on the tribal rolls although I could because you only need to be 1/16th Native American to be on them. Native Americans don't have to immigrate into the country that they are already in. Also, Native Americans on reservations in the USA are entitled to FULL WELFARE, MEDICAID, ETC. if they want it and financially qualify for it (and I am not against that). I really don't understand what you are trying to state here. Perhaps your husband is a Canadian Native American who immigrated to the USA? Is that what you are talking about? Well of course he would have to legally immigrate like anyone else.
Wrong again. Cherokees are not known for pre-Americana immigration to Canada. 1/16th will not get you anywhere. It was an interesting day at USCIS for all parties involved.
What are you trying to say about reservation indians and their pittance of benefits? Where does this fit into the conversation? By the way - once you decide to leave the reservation these benefits cannot be reinstated. I am glad you are not against them receiving these benefits - you may want to visit one of these reservations but not with a tour bus. Reservation is the only proper term for these places:>(
Wrong again. Cherokees are not known for pre-Americana immigration to Canada. 1/16th will not get you anywhere. It was an interesting day at USCIS for all parties involved.
Please explain the situation more thoroughly if you want anyone to appreciate what you went through on that interesting day for all parties involved.
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What are you trying to say about reservation indians and their pittance of benefits? Where does this fit into the conversation? By the way - once you decide to leave the reservation these benefits cannot be reinstated. I am glad you are not against them receiving these benefits - you may want to visit one of these reservations but not with a tour bus. Reservation is the only proper term for these places:>(
1/16 will get you on the tribal rolls and that's all I said. The welfare comment fits in because I think you took umbrage to my complaints about people coming here from foreign countries to get on the dole. If they leave the reservation and stay in the US and still qualify for benefits, they will get them. Not all reservations are horror shows and nobody has to stay on them. They also get considerable tax breaks (as in not paying taxes like the rest of us in the US) and since they are considered their own nation, they can do things that are otherwise outlawed in states. For example, in NY, the cigarettes are much cheaper if purchased on reservations because they do not have to charge the taxes the rest of the country does. Another example is casino gambling. They can have casinos in states that otherwise have outlawed gambling. I am not trying to say life is ideal, but all reservations are different, they have the option not to live on one, and they also get some breaks when they do live on one, as I mentioned above. Of course, it is not adequate payback for what their ancestors suffered due to the colonists, just like there is no adequate payback for the slavery of blacks in America.
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