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Are you sure about your facts? I seriously doubt you even are reading or watching real news. Sounds to me like you're a Fox News viewer. Today as we are speaking here, Putin and Kim Jung Un are going to meet to discuss military stuff. Russia is looking for missiles and artillary. Kim is looking for nuclear secrets and technology. This is a pathetic game Russia is playing. What once was an important country is now getting their butts handed to them by a Ukraine military with a mix of military equipment. They are so effective that the Russians have no counter to them. As I said earlier, when this is all said and done, Ukraine will have all of its territory back. The Donbas and Crimea will once again be part of Ukraine.
So ignorant is something you might look at the mirror for.
There is a difference between supporting Ukraine and recognizing the progress that Ukraine is or isn’t having in the summer counteroffensive. Do not think anybody on here is pro Russia. Ukraine is making some inroads on terrorizing Russians with deep drone attacks but the ground regained is going slower than expected. Your confidence in Ukraine regaining all land to include Crimea would imply the U.S. has already given every weapon system needed to Ukrainian, and fully trained Ukrainians with endless resources.
The part missed is that weapon systems are modular and a system-of-systems. Stand alone Strykers or F16s won’t be effective. Without a secure airfield, AWACS and supporting radar, a single F16 will be lucky to return to base, if the airfield wasn’t attacked upon takeoff. A Stryker requires lots of maintenance and the suspension systems need a log tail, which Ukraine has to develop. Recovery of Strykers, hauling back to maintenance, experienced mechanics, all present challenges. Experience cannot be trained; if it was, we’d have Privates operating as senior NCOs.
Where is this source of “real news” you mentioned in your post? Please share if it’s on uncensored Rumble.
There is a difference between supporting Ukraine and recognizing the progress that Ukraine is or isn’t having in the summer counteroffensive. Do not think anybody on here is pro Russia. Ukraine is making some inroads on terrorizing Russians with deep drone attacks but the ground regained is going slower than expected. Your confidence in Ukraine regaining all land to include Crimea would imply the U.S. has already given every weapon system needed to Ukrainian, and fully trained Ukrainians with endless resources.
The part missed is that weapon systems are modular and a system-of-systems. Stand alone Strykers or F16s won’t be effective. Without a secure airfield, AWACS and supporting radar, a single F16 will be lucky to return to base, if the airfield wasn’t attacked upon takeoff. A Stryker requires lots of maintenance and the suspension systems need a log tail, which Ukraine has to develop. Recovery of Strykers, hauling back to maintenance, experienced mechanics, all present challenges. Experience cannot be trained; if it was, we’d have Privates operating as senior NCOs.
Where is this source of “real news” you mentioned in your post? Please share if it’s on uncensored Rumble.
Well for the first point on support of Russia, it sure is fooling me that there aren't some Putin sympathizers here because of their affinity to the former president. Just how they are seeming to want to pass the buck to anyone other than my favorite grifter.
Second I would say almost any other source of news that from Fox News. My evidence is $780,000,000.00 to Dominion for knowingly lying about voting machines. They all behind the scenes admitted it was all bull **** yet they were so stuck with a narrative that their viewers wanted to hear. Anything other than the BS they were selling meant the loss of viewer share to places like Newsmax and OANN.
I completely agree with your assessment of the effectiveness of F16's initially. Even the Strykers and all the military hardware we can supply them will only be as effective as their ability to employ them and their capacity to sustain the personnel losses. It is why they have been holding back and going in baby steps. If they had longer range strike capability could help but until they have major breaches through the mine fields. The one piece I will point to is they are allowing NCO and Officers to do their jobs. It appears they are thinking through the puzzle that is sustaining the Russians.
Well for the first point on support of Russia, it sure is fooling me that there aren't some Putin sympathizers here because of their affinity to the former president. Just how they are seeming to want to pass the buck to anyone other than my favorite grifter.
Second I would say almost any other source of news that from Fox News. My evidence is $780,000,000.00 to Dominion for knowingly lying about voting machines. They all behind the scenes admitted it was all bull **** yet they were so stuck with a narrative that their viewers wanted to hear. Anything other than the BS they were selling meant the loss of viewer share to places like Newsmax and OANN.
I completely agree with your assessment of the effectiveness of F16's initially. Even the Strykers and all the military hardware we can supply them will only be as effective as their ability to employ them and their capacity to sustain the personnel losses. It is why they have been holding back and going in baby steps. If they had longer range strike capability could help but until they have major breaches through the mine fields. The one piece I will point to is they are allowing NCO and Officers to do their jobs. It appears they are thinking through the puzzle that is sustaining the Russians.
Predictable for your first two paragraphs. Somehow think Trump was a better president than Biden equates to being pro Russian. A little bit too much generalization.
But wow on that last paragraph. So the U.S. is controlling the battlefield by not providing certain weapons at certain times? And this is being orchestrated by whom?
Predictable for your first two paragraphs. Somehow think Trump was a better president than Biden equates to being pro Russian. A little bit too much generalization.
But wow on that last paragraph. So the U.S. is controlling the battlefield by not providing certain weapons at certain times? And this is being orchestrated by whom?
I only did 22 years in the Army, so maybe I don’t know much, but local security is the responsibility of the company commander, supervised by the battalion commander and, possibly, a micromanaging brigade commander. But nope, in this world where every single thing is politicized, apparently the CinC is responsible for local security.
I wondering if they are testing the limits trying to see if they can soften us up to the idea of U.S. troops in Ukraine, or testing Russian resolve on its red lines. Amazing how we left Afghanistan after 20 years only to immediately find ourselves in another conflict.
I only did 22 years in the Army, so maybe I don’t know much, but local security is the responsibility of the company commander, supervised by the battalion commander and, possibly, a micromanaging brigade commander. But nope, in this world where every single thing is politicized, apparently the CinC is responsible for local security.
With all of security stuff he is personally involved with, it makes one wonder how he has any time in the day to press the big red button on his desk that says "Increase Gas Prices."
I wondering if they are testing the limits trying to see if they can soften us up to the idea of U.S. troops in Ukraine, or testing Russian resolve on its red lines. Amazing how we left Afghanistan after 20 years only to immediately find ourselves in another conflict.
I think he means Permanent Washington, which is controlled by the plutocracy, or the 1%, or whatever name you want to call them. Whatever you call it, it’s the ruling class (or donor class) whose power derives from their wealth.
The term “deep state” has been turned into an absurd caricature, meant to demean the people who use the label, but that doesn’t mean that the concept behind it isn’t real.
I firmly believe that the Biden administration is controlled by the plutocracy, and the reason they hate Trump is that he has a tendency to go off script and do things that Permanent Washington and the ruling class do not like.
I also firmly believe that Permanent Washington and the ruling class goaded Russia into invading, wanted it to happen, and they might be interested in expanding the war, to include US boots on the ground in Ukraine.
For whatever reason, they are being cautious about that decision for the time being.
But that doesn’t change the fact that hundreds of thousands are dead because of poor leadership in Wash DC. That poor leadership is by design, and they do not care at all about common folks around the globe. Permanent Washington has been co-opted and now only exists to maintain the wealth and power of the donor class.
I think he means Permanent Washington, which is controlled by the plutocracy, or the 1%, or whatever name you want to call them. Whatever you call it, it’s the ruling class (or donor class) whose power derives from their wealth.
The term “deep state” has been turned into an absurd caricature, meant to demean the people who use the label, but that doesn’t mean that the concept behind it isn’t real.
I firmly believe that the Biden administration is controlled by the plutocracy, and the reason they hate Trump is that he has a tendency to go off script and do things that Permanent Washington and the ruling class do not like.
I also firmly believe that Permanent Washington and the ruling class goaded Russia into invading, wanted it to happen, and they might be interested in expanding the war, to include US boots on the ground in Ukraine.
For whatever reason, they are being cautious about that decision for the time being.
But that doesn’t change the fact that hundreds of thousands are dead because of poor leadership in Wash DC. That poor leadership is by design, and they do not care at all about common folks around the globe. Permanent Washington has been co-opted and now only exists to maintain the wealth and power of the donor class.
Being “cautious about the decision….” is the most concerning. Oldsoldier1984 said the deliberate slow roll on the types of weapons given to Ukraine over the past 18 months, is orchestrated to achieve results that were undefined.
If we found out our allies slow-rolled their weapons systems thus causing more death, we would be ballistic. That’s barbaric. Inhumane. The U.S. has spent the last 18 months wasting time by not giving real weapons systems so it’s assumed the war support is a joke, political, money wasted, ineffective.
No good reasons (is there any?) have been provided on this thread for why the U.S. is withholding the real weapons. Call them deep state, globalists, warhawks, old school democrats, whatever makes them feel good.
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