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Old 03-04-2024, 03:13 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Oration and speeches are as much outside of conversational speech as rockets are to airplanes. I have no idea who or what "anointed" Obama, but he gave a couple of speeches that had brilliant classical rhetoric. I'm not normally impressed with political speek, but linguistically those were exceptional. Now, that has absolutely ZERO to do with politics. Reagan held his own, speech-wise.

What I discovered on a trip to the David Crockett park in Lawrenceburg that tickled my funny bone was that he actually stole the speech of his opponent in one debate and gave it as his own, and won the debate. He also made it big in politics because he had connections and money from making whisky.

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Well to be completely fair, he followed GW Bush, so...

I had this impulse to throw something at that guy every time he said, "nook-yu-lur"

I don't want a man to have the power to drop a nuclear bomb if he can't even pronounce it, is that really too much to ask?
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Old 03-10-2024, 12:40 PM
 
Location: So Cal
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Oration and speeches are as much outside of conversational speech as rockets are to airplanes. I have no idea who or what "anointed" Obama, but he gave a couple of speeches that had brilliant classical rhetoric. I'm not normally impressed with political speek, but linguistically those were exceptional. Now, that has absolutely ZERO to do with politics. Reagan held his own, speech-wise.

What I discovered on a trip to the David Crockett park in Lawrenceburg that tickled my funny bone was that he actually stole the speech of his opponent in one debate and gave it as his own, and won the debate. He also made it big in politics because he had connections and money from making whisky.

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Unnecessarily rude post.
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Old 03-12-2024, 10:03 AM
 
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Unnecessarily rude post.
No. I wrote it with flat affect, as a factual post that attempted to pull the politics out of what was written before. Using the word "anointed" as a pejorative might be rude, but I have no idea whether it was meant that way or that it was intended as a lauding. It simply makes no difference to me. Obama, Lincoln, Kennedy, Nixon, Washington; they were all leaders who had various capabilities and flaws. Whatever. That has nothing to do with the topic. The greater subject where the thread was going is the difference between having training in rhetoric and presentation or not. I struggle to understand how you found my post rude unless you intended an off-topic dig? I will try to re-state, that speaking and writing are skills that get learned over a lifetime, and environments (such as law school) that foster the development of those skills result in more polished speech.
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